Is God good ?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Thomas Cranmer, Oct 22, 2017.

  1. Michael 345 Bali 1 week here 2 to go Valued Senior Member

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    And with that we join Alice at the tea party with the Mad Hatter

    Do we have a case of Erethism here?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erethism

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  3. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly, the Truth is even stranger then fiction. Alice in Wonderland is inspired just like the Bible, but by a genius not The LORD.
     
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  5. Michael 345 Bali 1 week here 2 to go Valued Senior Member

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    And fantasy far stranger than reality

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  7. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Impressive.!!!

    I once worked wit a guy who God talked to EVER day... mostly gave him tips on how to get girls to like him.!!!
     
  8. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting... God getting tips on how to attract something He made from a rib. Nah, He prefers Chinese spare ribs... maybe they ain't made of pork...
     
  9. TheFrogger Valued Senior Member

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    What is more impressive is the fact that was written BEFORE they had autopsies. How did the writer know men have one less rib than women?
     
  10. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    What I would do is not at issue here.
    You made a claim and I simply ask for you to put your money where your mouth is and as you clearly can not, you know that, I know that and all reading your nonsense know that... you use your sad example in an effort to avoid "putting up".

    We both know, everyone knows, you cant "put up" and the fact you resort to insult only drives home that inescapable fact.

    You are full of it and the only question is "are you aware that you are full of"it""? and do you know what I mean by "it".

    You are either not telling the truth or are suffering extreme delusion. ..which one do you pick?

    Alex
     
  11. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    I suppose we should determine why our moral judgement might lead us to believe God to be good or bad.
     
  12. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Facts or Faith basically. We all have faith, but not many facts concerning God. We have faith that Santa is real, until it is taken away etc. who took your faith in God away(I'm assuming you're an atheist/agnostic)?
     
  13. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Santa is such a cool guy, which is why we keep his memory alive (more so for children). God, on the other hand, is much more complex. He's a bit more to sort out than is Santa.

    I would probably define myself as an agnostic.
     
  14. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    We make those judgements because God is man's invention and his attributes are those given by man.
    Alex
     
  15. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    So we are passing judgement on humanity, not God?
     
  16. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Is God good...chatter excused, I trust Jesus' assessment. Luke 18:19 which doesn't mean He can't be bad too.
     
  17. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    i suppose I should be more clear. I'm a spiritual person, but I can't clearly define spirituality.
     
  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    God is an invention of humans so any issues need be addressed by humans.

    I am not agnostic but if I were to entertain the remote possibility of the reality of a God my first observation would be that no human could comprehend exactly what a God may be nor could a human comprehend or sensibly comment upon anything to do with that entity as to its reasoning or purpose or how humans fit into a context of God.
    So all God stuff is still made up by humans so attributes come merely from human opinion.
    If humans want God to be good or bad it is up for a vote as opposed to actually referencing reality.
    And look how God has changed over the years...God is who and what a human, any human, invents...mere opinion and opinions vary...
    Alex
     
  19. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    One is no crazier than the other.
     
  20. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Sounds conflicted. Perhaps being made in his image inevitably means we are bad, sometimes, too.
     
  21. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Are you a nihilist, Alex?
     
  22. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I like most of Jesus's approach to life.

    Most are good messages but common sense really.

    I respect others, I am kind, honest and support positive emotions and avoid negative thoughts...all good stuff but I just dont believe Jesus was a God, was the son of God, that he somehow died to fix it for us, that he actually was a real person and certainly that he did not die and rise after three days, which in my view was an attempt in the story to link him to the behaviour of the Sun and therefore a God.

    The concept of a real Satan is fairy tale stuff which I reject.

    Gods are a human invention something some need and others dont.

    If it helps one cope with life I guess use it if you need it...but to me it is living a lie.

    And like all things from humans there are good points and bad points.

    To me honesty is the most important thing along with kindness...I dont like to see folk conned but I dont like them to have difficulty in coping with existence..so if they can feel better and happier I would back down on requiring them to be honest about there being a God or not.

    I post mainly cause I am bored at times and to forget my problems for a while.

    Alex
     
  23. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    That is a qualification others may make.
    I am just a simple human enjoying a wonderful era in time.

    Personally I dont like being put in any box..even athiest which, I accept I am, but it puts me in a box...
    I reject a lot of stuff I accept a lot of stuff but at the end of it I am just me...one insignificant human out of several billion in a universe argueably infinite but even if limited to the observable universe still a mere speck presumably of no less or no more importance than any other creature large or small experiencing a mere blink of time.
    Alex
     

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