Is ghost real?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Saint, Jan 9, 2014.

  1. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Have you ever seen ghost?
     
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  3. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, I have seen goats. Goats are definitely real.
     
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  5. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    No, not in 71 years. And I never will.
     
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  7. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    If they were real, we would all see them and you wouldn't need to ask that question.
     
  8. Trapped Banned Banned

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    If UFO's were real, we would all see them.

    (Joke statement) just to point out you are talking nonsense. Even though I don't believe in ghosts, some people need to work on their deduction skills.
     
  9. Trapped Banned Banned

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    I have seen what you might call a ghost... a face of a man when I was younger and got my first house. When I was in the kitchen, a face of a man wavered towards mine. He was a black man, but he faded just as quick as he appeared in my mind.

    The key point here, is that the event was totally ethereal. I cannot say it was an event which somehow my mind didn't make up. Perhaps I was undergoing elevated stress levels with moving house and my brains chemistry was all over the shop.
     
  10. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    But, many people do see UFO's (Unidentified Flying Objects). Seeing visiting alien spacecrafts is another story altogether.

    Yes, I can see that.
     
  11. Trapped Banned Banned

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    No one said anything about UFO's being alien.

    Your logic sucks and you know it. You can't say everyone has to see a phenomenon to make it true. That is simply untrue.
     
  12. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Then, what point are you trying to make?

    I never said that. You should try reading what I actually said rather than making up your own words and then creating an argument around that.
     
  13. Trapped Banned Banned

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    You can't follow a simple statement? Do I need to break it down into some sort of easily digestible baby language?

    A phenomenon doesn't need to be proven to be seen by everyone. You don't need everyone to see that a train derails and crashes and causes world headlines. Not everyone see's that event but there is enough evidence to suggest it happened.

    Just as with ghosts, we don't need everyone to see one to make it true.

    Saying if ghosts where true then everyone would see it, based on the faulty premise that something only needs to be true to be seen by everyone. This doesn't make sense as an argument and you know it doesn't.
     
  14. Trapped Banned Banned

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    Yes you did. You said

    ''If they were real, we would all see them''
     
  15. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    My mother often goes to these ghost hunting weekends. She claims she has had strange experiences.

    Personally, I think if you are in the dark expecting something to happen, to be fed hysteria concerning possibly the history of a place, associated to something malevolent in it's past, surrounded with like-minded people is a recipe for delusional experiences. I would never say that to her though

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  17. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    That statement is not the same as yours:

    "everyone has to see a phenomenon to make it true"
     
  18. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    No one said that, those are your words.

    Exactly, but there is no evidence for ghosts.

    You're confused, the former is not the same thing as the latter.
     
  19. Trapped Banned Banned

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    By stating



    ''If they were real, we would all see them''


    must imply

    ''to be real, we must all see them''


    Do you not understand that my statement is synonymous to yours?


    If not, I think you are trolling.
     
  20. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Again, those two statements are two different things, no implying required.
     
  21. Trapped Banned Banned

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    It means for your statement to be true, mine must, because they are completely synonymous.

    If you don't believe me, we can take this to the language subforum, I'm sure there will be overwhelming agreement that the second statement is just a rephrased form of your own.
     
  22. Trapped Banned Banned

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    Think about it harder... you are the one making the statement, saying ''if they were real, then we would all see them.''

    So... we would all see them, if they were real, right? So to be real, we must all see them.

    If we don't all see them, they cannot be real.


    This is why I questioned your logic, you don't seem to have good deduction skills.
     
  23. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, but one statement is clearly not the same as the other. Try thinking about it.
     

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