Is Fox News the Only Organization Which Can Get Rid of Trump?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by joepistole, Jul 9, 2017.

  1. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    That's an awesome power. Fox News has more power than Congress? I think the answer is yes. Fox News, which is the unofficial mouth piece of the Republican Party, is just that powerful. Trump has been very cozy with Fox News management very for a long time. Fox is the reason Trump is in the White House. Fox supported Trump from the very beginning, and Fox continues to shower Trump with praise. Fox News consumers are just that misinformed.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/opinion/trump-fox-news-media.html?_r=0
     
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  3. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    CNN viewers are informed?

    In this day, how does anyone become "informed"? Does it have something to do with confirmation bias, or can you answer that honestly?
     
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  5. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    If they watch Fox, they become misinformed - an acquisition of negative knowledge, so that they know less than before watching Fox.

    Since they are also immunized against correcting that status (their memory has been damaged by chaotic reversals of argument and assertion, each demanding belief) the situation is in most such cases hopeless.

    If they do not watch Fox they can employ their memory and the record of the past to correct, over time, misapprehensions and illusions.

    That is because illusions and deceptions are not supported by events over time. If there is no chair, you only think there is a chair, eventually you will try sitting in your illusion, and learn better. For example:

    If you believed what was being claimed by your sources of political news about the immediate and critical threat of Saddam Hussein and the necessity of emergency full scale war that would be over in six months with no occupation or nation building involved, you can now correct your misinformation - and also come to a somewhat better understanding of American politics and news sources thereof, by remembering how you came to be misinformed.

    If you believed what was claimed about Obama and gun confiscation in 2008, and you look at the record of what Obama said and did over the subsequent 8 years, you can correct your misinformed state now, and come to a somewhat better understanding of American politics and news sources thereof thereby.

    Or if you were believing certain sources of misinformation about AGW a few years ago, when they were claiming there was no warming happening (remember that?) and the research data was being faked for liberal bribe money and the satellites were showing cooling and sunspots were in control and here's a list of scientists who think the planet is getting cooler and yadda yadda yadda,

    you can now correct that belief, and also come to a somewhat better understanding of American politics and news sources thereof thereby.

    Better informed through memory and reason, leading to better information from better sources, leading to being still better informed via memory and reason, and so forth.

    Call it disconfirmation unbiasing.

    It's one way to become informed.
     
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  7. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Well, they are better informed than Fox News viewers as evidenced by a number of academic studies.

    Two, this isn't about other sources of news. This is about Fox News. Fox and Republican news sources instruct their viewers to only view and only believe right-wing news sources like Fox News. And most of their viewers obey. That's a problem for the nation. That's how we get a Trump. That's how we almost defaulted on our debt not once but twice. That allows Fox to treat their viewers like mushrooms: in the dark and buried in shit, and they do. So called "conservatives" never get to hear or see the truth. They never get to hear anything but the party line. Do you really want to talk about confirmation bias?
     
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