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It is hard to know whether river is a troll or just very, very deeply stupid. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
When it comes to anything involving chemistry, he acts as if he is solid concrete from the neck up. The classic illustration is this thread, which I made sure was the last time I interacted with him:http://www.sciforums.com/threads/has-there-been-an-improved-understanding-of-water.135771/. , in which he suggested encasing an individual hydrogen atom in plastic....Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
River has no idea what an atom is or what a molecule is, so the chance of him understanding why atomic oxygen is too reactive to be found in water, or to be used by lifeforms in respiration, is zero. Or so he wants it to appear, at least - I remain unconvinced that anyone can really be that thick.
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(and Paddo by association)
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He is old, fading, and desirous of human interaction about science-adjacent stuff.
I would sympathize more, but he is his own worst enemy. He could use some humility about the significant limits of his own knowledge.
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What obstacle ?
Got it !
When you say MOLECULES then what kind of molecules are they ? What are they made of ?
Aquatic respiration ;
What form of water is oxygen rich ? That allows respiration by fish .
exchemist should know or at least find out . And then let us know .
In both Marine and Fresh Water .
Are you joking here?
Respond to my post #1750 . The one directly before your post .
Oh my God you're not joking.
An oxygen molecule is written as O2. See if you can work it out from there.
Post #1750: "What form of water is oxygen rich ?" There are no "forms"/allotropes/varieties of water that are oxygen rich. All water is H2O and thus has exactly the same ratio of oxygen to hydrogen. Even heavy water has heavier hydrogen isotopes but exactly the same ratio of oxygen to hydrogen.
Depending on environment, water has different gases dissolved in it. A cup of water standing on the table has a partial pressure of oxygen and nitrogen that exactly matches the partial pressures in air (159 mmHg in the case of oxygen.) This is oxygen that is available to fish. So to use language you may understand better, there is plenty of oxygen for fish in that glass of water.
But let's say you put a goldfish in that glass. He's going to respire via his gills and use up that oxygen. More will diffuse in from the surface but it will be slow. So he may suffocate. (Or more likely start "breathing" air at the surface, which goldfish to do when ppO2 levels are low.)
To counteract that you could:
1) get a bigger tank for him, so there's more surface area to diffuse gases
2) get a pump with an aerator, to artificially increase the surface area available to diffuse gases
3) take the fish out and allow the water to return to equilibrium with the atmosphere.
Or an alge bloom that takes the oxygen out of the water . Which causes Marine life to die from suffocation .
So its just atmospheric pressure ?
Depends on the type of algae. Green algae increases the oxygen concentration due to photosynthesis.
In a glass of water, yes.
In the world as a whole, green algae/phytoplankton generates oxygen in the seas, and green plants generate oxygen on land. The ocean and the atmosphere exchange gases all the time. The ocean as a whole holds a lot less oxygen than the air does - but the top layers of the ocean, which contain most of the phytoplankton, contains more. (Again measuring by partial pressure.)
The type of alge is not so much important as it is , that it takes the excess oxygen from the water , that would go to Marine life . Hence suffocation .
In a glass of water, yes.
The Excess Oxygen Resides where in Water ? In between H2O molecules themselves ? Where ?
Water in the natural world has a whole bunch of things dissolved in it: O2, CO2, salts, minerals, etc.
Here's a table that shows just gases, including oxygen:
What form of oxygen do fish filter out by their gills from water ?
More ignorance and lies.
The mathematical structure of the Periodic System Table:
The Periodic Table with a new double numerical structure, presented here is an attempt to find a table form which will in some new way represent the periodicity and symmetry of the Elements, with the Periodic System its base. Also, this tetrahedral laminar table structure may someday become a base for developing a new shell structure of the atomic nucleus.
This new rearrangement of the chemical element is based on a mathematical formula whose result is, simply, the length of the periods.
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