Is Breastfeeding/Skin Hunger Incest?

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  1. ancientregime Banned Banned

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    Actually there are more. Which ones are you talking about? Which encounters do they exist within and which encounters do they not exist within? I would like to know the categorical difference you are implying.

    I have focused on oxytocin because the scientific zexual finger is pointed directly at it. It's in luzt encounters, orgazm encounters, breastfeeding encounters, massage, skin hunger experienced by children and encounters, etc. It seems to touch on all of them.

    As far as my personal research goes I haven't seen that chemicals creating a categorical difference that it seems you are implying, but when considering fMRI categorical discoveries began to become more obvious.

    But, what about those chemicals? What am I missing that you have noticed?
     
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  3. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Why not ?
     
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  5. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    because breast feeding is exactly that. Feeding. They can get their food source another way.
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Yea, but what if the both of you really like it this way.. ?
     
  8. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    There are boundaries you set for your kids. This is one of them. There comes a time when children need to be weaned, all animals know this.
     
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    How are these boundaries determined ?
     
  10. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    when they don't need it for sustenance anymore. I've seen Mom's who are still nursing when their kid is 6-7. Its apalling and I do think its abuse.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=6551439&page=1
     
  11. ancientregime Banned Banned

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    Please excuse the spelling and ackward wording. I'm using a right wing college internet connection to post this. It filters out not only zexual terms but strangely other words.

    An analogy is not going to knock it down, no matter how clever you think you are being.

    Here is Washington States defintion of zexual contact:

    (2) "Zexual contact" means any touching of the zexual or other intimate parts of a person done for the purpose of gratifying zexual desire of either party or a third party.

    Yes, the breast can be considered zexual. And, yes oxytocin is released along with natural opiates. Not all women who breastfeed have a problematic negative experience such as the female poster here.

    "Intimate parts" in the legal definition are not specified. When you don't specify things, you know what that means? They get to interpret things as they wish. This leaves the entire body open to be considered a zexual intimate part, based upon scientific finds of the chemicals that may be released due to touching.

    Even satisfying "skin hunger" that children have will fit fine under their ambiguous phrasing:
    (zexual contact) for the purpose of gratifying zexual desire of either party or a third party.

    "skin hunger" is technically zexual desire because the chemicals being released are identical between two 18+ humans in physical affection and parent/child physical cuddling.
     
  12. ancientregime Banned Banned

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    Judges do not use wikipedia as a legal guide.
     
  13. ancientregime Banned Banned

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    It's enough evidence under their defintion to imply that any touching can be construed as zexual. Now, in order to avoid that from being taken advantage of by moral zealots (which is happening in many areas of law), the wording needs to change. They have to quite writing ambigous statements when it comes to zexual laws. It allows way too much interpretation. Laws are not meant to be interpreted. The are meant to be followed. They are supposed to be fair, just and accurate. I think science can be used here to remedy this issue, I'm just not exactly sure. This is what I'm urging people to argue and think about.
     
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    I am sorry for you experience. That is too bad. Many women do not have so much trouble as you.

    In terms of your question about my statement about the "body being one giant genital" I was being facetious, but serious at the same time. Scientific discovery has proven all affectionate toucing is chemically zexual. But, I don't think this should be used as a way to increase the radicals on the left and right. The right may say breast feeding after a certain age is molestation. The left may say a body massage is molestation because the ual chemicals are released. Who knows how far they will try to take it? It just takes one case to destroy one families life.

    I think it's high time they write things with science in mind to ward off moral zealotry imposed upon the masses.
     
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  15. ancientregime Banned Banned

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    Welcome to the wacky world of physics!
     
  16. ancientregime Banned Banned

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    It sure is something on on the exteme right and left's list. They have already used it to drag people in to a public forum to embarass them and accuse them of petophilia. They make no bones about their ruthless moral zealotry. The courts are ready to eat it up. They are very popular spectals in the press and media. Ratings galore. Bathing in their psuedo-scientific terms is called: grooming the victim.
     
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    Well provide a scientific basis for your claim. It seems culturually to be strange, but I'm not interested in laws that are based upon a preference. How can you show it scientifically to be something unacceptable.

    I'll give you a hint. A law is created because a person's actions harm another person or creates a signficant threat. A scientific law demands evidence of harm or signficant threat. How can we use that reasoning to make it illegal? Could we say this act creates physical or emotional abuse? What threat to the child is being posed? This is the way to begin to consider a societal law in a scientific way.
     
  18. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    But what if the both of you really liked it ?
    You practice sex when you don't need it to have baby's anymore, don't you ? Does that mean you shouldn't ?
     
  19. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Well said.

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    the adrenaline girl or...the adrenaline defender girl...
     
  21. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmm, I can't seem to find a scientific study on mother's who breast feed their 18 yr olds.
     
  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Breastfeeding is done to ... er... feed the baby, you know. It is not done for sexual gratification.

    I think you're confusing "skin hunger" with "food hunger" and barking completely up the wrong tree.

    So, how about my adrenalin analogy? I notice you haven't commented on that.
     
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