Is Big Bang wrong?

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  1. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    And yet the big bang gives us the right ratios of primordial elements, something that steady state theories can not do. Also, the same equations that predict that the big bang occured, and model the growth of the universe as it has happened since then, also correctly predict the occurence of the first quasars.
     
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  3. arauca Banned Banned

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    So many of this big bang are half ass theory , So why are they sold to the public as it is a gospel truth ?
     
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  5. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    It's not a half assed theory, the only thing that's half assed about big bang cosmology (as it is most correctly called) is certain groups of peoples understanding of it.

    Big bang cosmology, as it stands, is the single, most self consistent model that is able to account for the greatest number of observations.
     
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  7. Boris2 Valued Senior Member

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    what parts are half-arsed? please put some substance to your posts instead of these ignorant bites.
     
  8. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    It also predicted the black body spectrum of the CMB so closely that the error bars were dots.
     
  9. river

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    because the public , for the most part , don't know any better

    true , esoteric knowledge rains

    but not all
     
  10. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Name one thing that you think it can't account for.
     
  11. arauca Banned Banned

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    Boris, posmotry zdes. http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/BB-top-30.asp

    After you read this then give your commentary
     
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  13. river

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    sunspots
     
  14. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    1. Sunspots have nothing to do with bigbang cosmology.
    2. Sunspots are well accounted for - including their cycle, by the current laws of physics.
     
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    My comment is that there is a lot of hooey in that link.

    For example, Milgrom himself stated that MOND can not get rid of dark matter in its entirety (as is often attributed to him), only that it reduces the amount required.

    I know some of those points have been proven false with refined measurements, and thereing lies the problem with discussions such as this.

    Some times absence of proof is just that, absence of proof, it's not neccessarily proof of absence. Spometimes technology has to catch up so that we can make the neccessary measurements.
     
  16. river

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    no they don't , have anything to do with BB

    but they are a consequence of BB ( big-bang ) theory


    how accurate is this " accounted for " ?
     
  17. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    No, they're a consequence of the way magnetic fields and charged plasmas interact.
     
  18. river

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    sunspots


    which is based on BB is it not ?
     
  19. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    No. The interactions would be the same in a Steady State universe.
     
  20. river

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    so sunspots are apart of a steady state theory ?
     
  21. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    river:

    The big bang theory and the steady state theory are cosmological theories. A cosmological theory explains the large-scale structure of the universe. Cosmological theories won't help you build a toaster or tell you what a sunspot is or tell you the distance from Copenhagen to New York.
     
  22. river

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    ahhh... I see


    ahhhh........I see
     
  23. river

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    nevertheless BB can't explain , sunspots
     
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