Is Bell Lying or Just Vindictive

[Ophiolite]

From another thread, stamping her authority by making it a mod note:

He was not discussing the trolls, but was only addressing one point from The God. So perhaps you should not take his response so far out of context and apply something else to it entirely. If you want to know what Fraggle thinks of the trolls, etc, on this site, ask him directly. His answer might surprise you, because it is the complete opposite to what you accused him (and all staff) of.

You should not take his response to one completely different and unrelated issue and apply it to a completely different subject and then level that kind of accusation. What Fraggle is talking about are issues like child pornography, white supremacism, Nazism, denigrating others because of their ethnic origin, sexuality, sex, etc. The language used around these issues, the language used to groom young people by paedophiles.. Graphic sexual scenes, be it porn or written porn, graphic scenes and images of violence.. That is what Fraggle was addressing in that sentence you quoted and applied a different context to. Not the "occasional swear word".

To answer your question, well, accusation..

No, staff do not see swear words as more damaging than trolls, etc. Staff also see the inherent dangers and issues surrounding trolls, etc on this site. But staff are also mindful that we should not just start going on a purge and banning everyone we think or believe is a troll, for obvious reasons. Staff are also mindful of the appearance of abuse of one's position or bias and so regularly review the actions of fellow moderators, when there is every appearance of a conflict of interest or abuse of one's position here or the appearance of bias, which can give the appearance of unfair moderation.

1. Fraggle, in the subject thread specifically addressed what I chose to call the occasional swear word and Fraggle referred to as below:
"So since I haven't seen the passages in question, it comes down to what, exactly, are we referring to as expletives? George Carlin's "Seven Dirty Words" have been a good guide for decades. But (at least here in the USA), slang terms for bodily functions, intercourse and sex organs have increased that seven to a much larger number. Add to this the many insulting words for ethnicity, gender and religion, and we've probably got more than 100 "dirty words."

So it doesn't really matter if you're talking about another member or one of us Moderators. It isn't the object of your name-calling that is important. It's the name-calling itself."

There is no mention in Fraggle's post of "child pornography, white supremacism, Nazism, denigrating others because of their ethnic origin, sexuality, sex, etc. The language used around these issues, the language used to groom young people by paedophiles.. Graphic sexual scenes, be it porn or written porn, graphic scenes and images of violence.. "

I find your introduction of these topics is what is "so far out of context and applied to something else entirely".

2. For the record I have a very high regard for some mods, a moderate regard for others, but consider you and Tiassa to be arrogant bullies. Your irrelevant introduction of unsavoury topics in your mod note (had to stamp your authority there didn't you?) makes me wonder what depravity goes on in your mind.

Paddoboy had it about right, he just had the wrong targets. If I recall correctly you don't like the epithet bitch, so I won't use it. I'll just think it.

 

[Bells]

1. Fraggle, in the subject thread specifically addressed what I chose to call the occasional swear word and Fraggle referred to as below:
"So since I haven't seen the passages in question, it comes down to what, exactly, are we referring to as expletives? George Carlin's "Seven Dirty Words" have been a good guide for decades. But (at least here in the USA), slang terms for bodily functions, intercourse and sex organs have increased that seven to a much larger number. Add to this the many insulting words for ethnicity, gender and religion, and we've probably got more than 100 "dirty words."

So it doesn't really matter if you're talking about another member or one of us Moderators. It isn't the object of your name-calling that is important. It's the name-calling itself."

There is no mention in Fraggle's post of "child pornography, white supremacism, Nazism, denigrating others because of their ethnic origin, sexuality, sex, etc. The language used around these issues, the language used to groom young people by paedophiles.. Graphic sexual scenes, be it porn or written porn, graphic scenes and images of violence.. "

I find your introduction of these topics is what is "so far out of context and applied to something else entirely".

No, but that is what Fraggle was talking about.

Those are the "topics" we "squelch" on this website. Immediately.

Hence why your comment was taking his comments out of context, completely by the way, and was wrong. I provided you with the "topics" we "squelch" as Fraggle noted in his reply. The reply (Fraggle's) you had taken and turned into an accusation that we only care about bad words..

Did you think to ask Fraggle about what he thinks of the "trolls", for example? Or anyone else on staff? Or would you prefer to work yourself into a lather, down to these opinions on what was basically "what if's" formulated by other people about paddoboy's intent and blatant dishonesty in his OP?

2. For the record I have a very high regard for some mods, a moderate regard for others, but consider you and Tiassa to be arrogant bullies.

And yet here you are, starting this thread and calling me a bitch. Oh nix that, thinking "bitch" when you see or think of me or whatever.. You have just provided everyone here with insight into how your mind actually works..

You may not be aware of this, but you just made my day.

Your irrelevant introduction of unsavoury topics in your mod note (had to stamp your authority there didn't you?) makes me wonder what depravity goes on in your mind.

Would you prefer I lied to you?

Because those are the topics we "squelch" here on this site. I corrected you.

And that's your real issue here, isn't it?

That me, the "bitch" as your mind probably hisses in your thoughts, dared to correct you.

Paddoboy had it about right, he just had the wrong targets.

Paddoboy blatantly lied in his OP. I think it says a lot about you that you are now throwing down in this way..

If I recall correctly you don't like the epithet bitch, so I won't use it.

I don't?

Where did I ever say that?

You don't get it, do you? You have literally outed yourself in the worst way imaginable and you did so by overriding an admin's moderation of a thread, to personally abuse another moderator and pretty much declared that you think "bitch" because I dared to correct you and your taking Fraggle's posts out of context to level accusations against this site and staff..

I'll just think it.

That kind of fits your MO..

I mean, you do seem like the type to do that, soooo...

You aren't exactly telling me anything new or that I did not know.

You just provided proof that I was not wrong about you being that type of guy to begin with.