Is Abortion a right someone should have?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by hug-a-tree, Dec 31, 2005.

  1. hug-a-tree Live the life Registered Senior Member

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    I don't understand. Why do you think that?
     
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  3. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    this issue isn't decided yet?
     
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  5. angrybellsprout paultard since 2002 Registered Senior Member

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    Who made the choice to have sex?

    Another common liberal thing to do, pretend that rape constitutes the vast majority of abortions and also pretend that rape justifies dumb sluts having abortions.

    While I personally don't agree with abortion due to rape, as again your are murdering a child and would rather say put it up for adoption, I don't really see many people trying to make it illegal, including myself.

    Another fun liberal thing to do is talk about 'accidents', afterall sex isn't a concious choice that one makes, it just 'happens' kinda like breathing. I think Marshall Mathers said it best:

    What?
    She tripped?
    Fell?
    Landed on his dick?

    Then again still trying to justify dumb sluts murdering children. Maybe if they are too stupid to understand how biology works, maybe they shouldn't be having sex? Though that doesn't go along with the liberal philosophy of, if you have a vagina why aren't you using it.

    Because the intentional denial of the basic right to life when said being hasn't done anything to forfit said right isn't murder...

    Oh that's right, a fetus isn't a child. It is a unicorn that magically changes its entire taxonomy into that of a human upon passage through the birth canal.

    As mentioned earlier liberals obviously don't have the ability to make the choice of having sex or not, thus they must not be humans either and are perfectly expendable objects.

    Blyscot zygote embryo fetus infant toddler adolescent adult, are all humans, just different developmental stages. all with the same DNA and the same taxonomy.

    Correct, we are talking about the murdering of unicorns.

    Because one of the most common arguments isn't that the child's life isn't worth living thus doing it a benefit by murdering it?

    The parents won't love it, thus the child will grow up unwanted and nobody would want to live that life...

    The parents will be so poor that they will hardly be able to provide for the child, and who wants to be that poor? Just do the humanitarian thing and murder it.

    Or better yet, if you are that poor don't have sex? Shouldn't you be out getting a job with all that time you are using to make those babies that you so despiratly want to murder?

    Murdering our children, the most defenseless humans, is far worse than murdering an adult...
     
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  7. angrybellsprout paultard since 2002 Registered Senior Member

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    Too bad that darn Constitution thing gives states the rights to pass their own laws on issues not expressly enumerated within the writen text of said document.

    Then again the judiciary doesn't really give a damn about the Constitution either and just writes laws on whatever it wants to without any regard to the Constitution...
     
  8. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    since you are so pro life how about we give you all the babies that would have been aborted and let you take care of them

    don't raise the issue of accidents or whatever.
    like i said on the first page
    a man is TOTALLY responsible for a womans pregnancy
     
  9. QuarkMoon I Registered Senior Member

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    Great point, although you have to take the law into account. According to the law, the fetus is not considered a child until it takes a breath outside of the womb. It's a technicality, but it is the law, therefore it is not murdering children.

    But I must say I agree with everything else you said, I won't call you a troll anymore.

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  10. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    what does this have with the issue of abortion?
     
  11. hug-a-tree Live the life Registered Senior Member

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    Oh wow, that was lame.
     
  12. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    yeah, it WAS lame
    but not near as lame as forceing a woman to have a child she doesn't want.
     
  13. angrybellsprout paultard since 2002 Registered Senior Member

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    Yep they are unicorns.

    Entitled to the equal protections that a mouse would get.

    Do you eat plants? Guess what they are alive as well...

    Then again I'm sure that liberals just wish that we ate our children, as that is the natural thing that you find in nature.

    Too bad an adult cow is well, a cow and a young human is not. I know that whole taxonomy thing can get a little complicated, but it is something that you should really give a try.

    There are two forms of 100% effective birth control that I know of.

    Pants and removal of the reproductive organs, kind of hard to make babies with testies or ovaries.

    Though we all know that liberals try to justify all abortions by pointing out the rare case of abortion that doesn't even constitute 1% of all abortions.

    Yes who are you to make decisions for others?

    Why not allow the child to make its own decision as to wether it lives or not? Well you would but you're obviously anti-choice.

    Why not allow others to make a concious decision about wether to have sex or not? That isn't a very liberal thing to say either. I mean to actually admit that someone choose to have sex or not? Next you'll be saying that people would be held accountable for their own choices.
     
  14. angrybellsprout paultard since 2002 Registered Senior Member

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    I know because a man is TOTALLY 100% the only person who makes a choice wether or not to have sex.

    I mean duh, everyone knows that women don't make a choice to have sex or not, only males do.
     
  15. hug-a-tree Live the life Registered Senior Member

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    oh come on! If she was raped, yeah I can see why she'd wouldn't want to have the child. If she willingly had sex (and normally you have sex with people you love) and ends up pregnant, why does it have to be a bad thing?
     
  16. hug-a-tree Live the life Registered Senior Member

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    YES! It takes two to tango.
     
  17. angrybellsprout paultard since 2002 Registered Senior Member

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    What law would that be?

    The unconstitutional laws written by the judiciary despite the Constitution giving the rights to write law to the legislature? Or the unconstitutional laws written by the judiciary despite the Constitution given the states the right to adress all issues not specifically enumerated within said document?

    or the laws written in states such as california where you are charged for double homecide if you murder a woman who is pregnant?

    still dont get why scott peterson didn't just claim that he gave laci an abortion and that he simply did some mal practice and that no murder took place...
     
  18. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    so saying that, do you believe it fair to force a woman to have a child she doesn't want?
     
  19. angrybellsprout paultard since 2002 Registered Senior Member

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    She obviously wanted to make that child, but we wouldn't want to actually hold anyone accountable for their concious choices, I mean that violates the core laws of liberal land...
     
  20. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    but you just said a man was responsible for a womans pregnancy

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    you didn't say that but you agreed with it
     
  21. angrybellsprout paultard since 2002 Registered Senior Member

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    I'm wondering if you ever made it past elementry school, as most language arts circulums require that you learn about certian things at a fairly young age.

    Can anyone else guess what literary devices those could be?
     
  22. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i wonder if you can answer a question
     
  23. hug-a-tree Live the life Registered Senior Member

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    He was being sarcastic. It's her responsiblty as much as his.
     

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