Invisible Flying Objects (IFO's)

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  1. Number Six Registered Member

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    I believe it a feasible comment to suggest that there is a great possibility that there exists what I would like to refer to them as "Invisible Flying Objects" (IFO's) occupying this planets air space that we have no knowledge about what so ever.

    I believe that we're not alone and UFO's have genuinely been sighted, but I also believe that some of these "visitors" may posses higher technological advances than others. Some occasionally crash.
     
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  3. Mystech Adult Supervision Required Registered Senior Member

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    I couldn't agree with this more. For all the Alien space craft that we DO see, just imagine how many there are, which could be right in front of our faces at this very moment that we DON'T see! Also, I wonder how many times people have missed what should have been sightings of the invisable lock ness monster, and Invisable big foot.

    This concept really blows the paranormal world as we know it wide open, in my opinion, for every strange thing that we see, just imagnie how very very many of the same events take place, only invisable. Clearly this is something to consider with some great seriousness.
     
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  5. Number Six Registered Member

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    A sanctimonious idiosyncratic smidgen of puffed up blowfish poop might be able to see them. Maybe.
     
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  7. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Feasible?
    Possibly.

    Why would something like this be reasonable to believe?
     
  8. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Oh.
    Wait a second.
    This is pseudoscience...
    What does reasonability have to do with ANYTHING?

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  9. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    "Invisible Flying Objects" (IFO's) occupying this planets air space that we have no knowledge about what so ever.

    And if they were invisible perhaps they would not violate the Pauli exclusion principle; any number of IFO’s could occupy the same place and remain in the same state.

    At this point I’d like to steal an excellent quote from Mr. G:

    “The invisible and the non-existent are one and the same.”
     
  10. norad Registered Senior Member

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    Well, it's possible. The Philidelphia experiment comes to mind when I think of the possibility. This used electromagnetism I believe, and since UFO's, in all likelihood use this type of mechanism for propulsion, I have no doubt there could very well be IFO's.
     
  11. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    norad

    Of course you must realize the Philadelphia Experiment is pure bunk and is only in the realm of science fiction.

    Do you also believe Star Trek is real?
     
  12. norad Registered Senior Member

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    Of course not, Q! Man you are some pissy! I'm just stating the implications are there. Philedelphia experiment-go here: http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm909.html

    I don't believe it was totally bunk, Q. The fact that the experiment was to use a magnetic field led to my reply to this thread. Live with it or die ignorant.

    And what are doing in Pseudoscience Q? Are you implying that you are a 'troll'? I would love to meet you Q, in person. You seem like a pissy person, but hey, I can be pissy too and down right violent.
     
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  13. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    norad

    The fact that the experiment was to use a magnetic field led to my reply to this thread. Live with it or die ignorant.

    The "experiment" never existed in the first place.

    I can be pissy too and down right violent.

    You also have an amazing talent for stating the obvious.
     
  14. norad Registered Senior Member

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    Q. I didn't say it was real; I stated I don't believe it's totally bunk, meaning that the possibility is real. There is a difference. Read the post again-the implications are there! That doesn't prove that invisibility exists, but it doesn't disprove it either.

    You also have an amazing talent for stating the obvious.

    Too bad you cannot see yourself as that, Q. It shows that you don't even have the brain power to even think of possibilities. This, in turn, shows your ignorance and arrogance. Sorry Q, not trying to start anything like you always seem to do just "stating the obvious" in your own words.
     
  15. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Norad

    That doesn't prove that invisibility exists, but it doesn't disprove it either

    Using your logic, there also exists the possibility of gods, flying purple dragons, and the dead rising from their graves, right?
     
  16. norad Registered Senior Member

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    It shows that you don't even have the brain power to even think of possibilities.

    You just proved my point, Q. Einstein was even pondering if the possibility of invisibility existed. So, go to your other boards, Q. You are really boring me with your grade 2 IQ.
     
  17. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    norad

    Einstein was even pondering if the possibility of invisibility existed.

    Please cite a valid reference to this extraordinary claim.

    I'm quite sure you cannot, but I'll leave you the benefit of the doubt.
     
  18. norad Registered Senior Member

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    Project Rainbow was allegedly an experiment conducted upon a small destroyer escort ship during World War II, both in the Philadelphia Naval Yard and at sea; the goal was to make that ship invisible to enemy detection. The accounts vary as to whether the original idea was to achieve invisibility to enemy radar or whether the prize sought after was more profound: optical invisibility. Either way, it is commonly believed that the mechanism involved was the generation of an incredibly intense magnetic field around the ship, which would cause refraction or bending of light or radar waves around the ship, much like a mirage created by heated air over a road on a summer day. The legend goes on to say that the experiment was a complete success... except that the ship actually disappeared physically for a time, and then returned. They wanted to 'cloak' the ship from view, but they got de-materialization and teleportation instead... It has been claimed that the Philadelphia Experiment was partly an investigation into how Albert Einstein's 'Unified Field Theory for Gravitation and Electricity' might be used to advantage in the development of electronic camouflage for ships at sea. Einstein allegedly published his Unified Theory around 1925-27 in German, in a Prussian scientific journal, but it was later withdrawn as incomplete. This research was aimed at using intense electromagnetic fields to mask a ship from incoming projectiles, mainly torpedoes. This was later extended to include a study of creating radar invisibility by a similar field in the air rather than in the water. The story begins in June of 1943, with the U.S.S. Eldridge, DE (Destroyer Escort) 173, being fitted with tons of experimental electronic equipment. This included, according to one source, two massive generators of 75 KVA each, mounted where the forward gun turret would have been, distributing their power through four magnetic coils mounted on the deck. Three RF transmitters (2 megawatt CW each, mounted on the deck), three thousand '6L6' power amplifier tubes (used to drive the field coils of the two generators), special synchronizing and modulation circuits, and a host of other specialized hardware were employed to generate massive electromagnetic fields which, when properly configured, would be able to bend light and radio waves around the ship, thus making it invisible to enemy observers. The experiment, said to have taken place at the Philadelphia Naval Yard and also at sea, took place on at least one occasion while in full view of the Merchant Marine ship S.S. Andrew Furuseth, and other observation ships. The Andrew Furuseth becomes significant because one of its crewmen is the source of most of the original material making up the PX legend. Carlos Allende, a.k.a. Carl Allen, wrote a series of strange letters to one Dr. Morris K. Jessup in the 1950's in which he described what he claims to have witnessed: at least one of the several phases of the Philadelphia Experiment. At 0900 hours, on July 22nd, 1943, so the story goes, the power to the generators was turned on, and the massive electromagnetic fields started to build up. A greenish fog was seen to slowly envelop the ship, concealing it from view. Then the fog itself is said to have disappeared, taking the Eldridge with it, leaving only undisturbed water where the ship had been anchored only moments before. The elite officers of the Navy and scientists involved gazed in awe at their greatest achievement: the ship and crew were not only radar invisible but invisible to the eye as well! Everything worked as planned, and about fifteen minutes later they ordered the men to shut down the generators. The greenish fog slowly reappeared, and the Eldridge began to dematerialize as the fog subsided, but it was evident to all that something had gone wrong. When boarded by personnel from shore, the crew above deck were found to be disoriented and nauseous. The Navy removed the crew, and shortly after obtained another. In the end, the Navy decided that they only wanted radar invisibility, and the equipment was altered. On the 28th of October in 1943, at 17:15, the final test on the Eldridge was performed. The electromagnetic field generators were turned on again, and the Eldridge became near-invisible; only a faint outline of the hull remained visible in the water. Everything was fine for the first few seconds, and then, in a blinding blue flash, the ship completely vanished. Within seconds it reappeared miles away, in Norfolk, Virginia, and was seen for several minutes. The Eldridge then disappeared from Norfolk as mysteriously as it had arrived, and reappeared back in Philadelphia Naval Yard. This time most of the sailors were violently sick. Some of the crew were simply 'missing' never to return. Some went crazy, but, strangest of all, five men were fused to the metal in the ship's structure. The men that survived were never the same again. Those that lived were discharged as 'mentally unfit' for duty, regardless of their true condition. So, what had begun as an experiment in electronic camouflage, ended up as an accidental teleportation of an entire ship and crew, to a distant location and back again, all in a matter of minutes! Although the above may seem fantastic, one must remember, that in the 1940’s the atomic bomb was also being invented. Email me at Bassin4507@AOL.COM


    Follow the link I provided earlier, Q. Einstein didn't publicly state it was possible. He did ponder it, but whether or not he actually believed it is another question.
     
  19. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Norad

    Here are a few more Philadelphia Experiment websites for your viewing pleasure:

    http://www.crank.net/philadelphia.html

    BTW - If Einstein pondered invisibility, don't you think some reference would exist somewhere amongst his papers?
     
  20. norad Registered Senior Member

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    I would think it would be in papers somewhere, but I, and I am assuming this by the way, think that the unified field theory was just that-Einstein published a paper, or so it is guessed he published this paper, but it was withdrawn. I think he did publish it, but withdrew it as in the post earlier, but why he withdrew it is anyone's guess. I don't like to think within a box, Q, that's why I believe it is possible for something like this. I can't prove it-obvioulsy I don't have billions of dollars to start my own star-wars experiments.

    I will get back to you on this, as I do have other things to tend too. I find it interesting and intriguing. I've been conversing with Mr. Anonymous on electromagnetism for powering UFO's. Yes, Q, I do believe they're are such contraptions-I don't believe we are the know all see all in the universe. It's one of the reasons why I think outside of the box. It's how ideas are born!
     
  21. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Norad

    I am assuming this by the way, think that the unified field theory was just that-Einstein published a paper

    Or perhaps he simply coined the phrase.

    I've been conversing with Mr. Anonymous on electromagnetism for powering UFO's. Yes, Q, I do believe they're are such contraptions

    It might then be worth your while to crack open a physics book and read up on electromagnetism. Believing in a concept is not the same as understanding a concept.
     
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  23. Mystech Adult Supervision Required Registered Senior Member

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    Chris, it may benefit you to brush up on your meteorology skills. The picture you have posted, shows a fairly common phenomena known by the layman as "Clouds". Look up, there are probably a few in the sky above you as we speak.

    as for "Craft" becoming apparent when you run it through "filters" I'd have to ask exactly what you mean. Because if you are implying that if we run it through filters, like say in PhotoShop, then you are a complete nut. Let me assure you that PhotoShop’s filters can't do anything which would reveal an object in a picture which was not already visible in the original image, or barring that, create something entirely new to be placed in the image.
     

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