Interracial couples

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  1. birch Valued Senior Member

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    Some of the tiffs, stereotypes and misunderstandings are kind of funny.

    there are a lot of interracial couples and between any ethnicity, race and gender combo these days so i think racism is dwindling overall. This is very evident especially in major metropolitan areas but it's becoming more common anywhere as well as overseas. this is because the world is more mobile and international today than it was ever before.
     
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  3. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    interracial - An adjectival citizen of the race concept which denotes a mix or merger of different sub-categories in the human population. Currently the race concept disavows its legitimacy (i.e., a fictional historical concoction or outmoded prescriptive invention). While nevertheless paradoxically continuing to assert its distinction-making potence with declared "valid" instantiations of racial diversity or lack of; racial bias / bigotry / inequality / injustice; personal membership in group identities signifying themselves with racial labels; the occurrence of interracial relationships, etc.

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  5. birch Valued Senior Member

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    I understand her point of view in that cavemen types are not attractive. The type of males she describes with dislike exist in all races and cultures. what she is mostly referring to is a newer generation that is less patriarchal and sexist than prior generations and younger Asian males are amazingly egalitarian and non-sexist than prior generations but also chivalrous and responsible so they are viewed as a good catch for younger females.

    But what differs is I find Slavic men attractive because they seem more humble than many american men. It's also exotic to me so what is different from you may incite more inquisitiveness because you learn more about the world, other cultures and different points of view. It's the nuances of different cultures and those deep roots which are fascinating and lend different perspectives/soul. It's enriching, enlightening and it is like opening up undiscovered pockets of different perspectives within your own consciousness.
     
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  7. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    The heart wants what the heart wants.
    Why care about someone else's heart?
     
  8. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    I didn't know we used the word "interracial", anymore, outside pornography and the South. Around here, "interracial couples" are called "couples".
     
  9. birch Valued Senior Member

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    duh? for the purpose of discussing issues related to race though you do. hello?

    and you can stop feigning that race, ethnicity and culture differences don't exist. just like food is food but there is different types of food such as Chinese, American, Cajun, Italian, mexican etc.

    noting and recognizing that a couple is interracial isn't racist just because in day to day real life, a couple is a couple and race is not the issue nor to most others unless they are racist.
     
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  10. birch Valued Senior Member

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    for example, these two people of two entirely different ethnicities are very attractive. she is a pretty blonde (not because she is just blonde or has blue eyes) but her symmetry and the same with her husband who is handsome (notice he doesn't have double eyelids but the classic epicanthic fold) yet he is still good-looking.

    why is it that racist people can't recognize such simple patterns? are they that stupid?
     
  11. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/...-growing-acceptance-with-some-exceptions.html

    Is Manhattan in the south or is 2016 from the olden days?

    If one is not on the receiving end of racism, they tend to be oblivious to it (despite the best of liberal intentions).
     
  12. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    It's a matter of history; "interracial" is an old context, and yes, that is reflected in the article reaching back to Loving in order to establish its context; indeed, these marriages, your source notes, "are just like any others". But, yes, it is true, if one wishes to discuss the history of interracial marriage, one uses the word.

    That tends to be true of pretty much any empowerment forged from injustice.
     
  13. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Obviously it's not an issue relegated to history (or America's geography ) if it's still being experienced in the present. While much has been done to improve things, prematurely patting one's self on the back (or "talking down" anyone who brings up the mere words "interracial couple", what to speak of the subject ) comes across as poor form. It begets an assumption that it is a done and dusted topic and becomes just another way to assert the normalcy of obliviousness in the name of political correctness.
     
  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Those differences definitely exist; it's just hard to define what "interracial" is nowadays. At least around here.

    A Filipino/Mexican woman married to an Indian/Mexican man - is that interracial? Or an Italian man and a Persian woman? Or a very black Indian man and a white Indian woman?

    And those are just some people whose roots I know. It's more often a woman who looks vaguely Asian and a man who looks vaguely Indian. Is that interracial? They might well both be 75% Hispanic.
     
  15. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    "Interracial" is not a word anybody seems to use in my country. I agree it could have its uses in particular contexts, but to me it has a slight smell to it of a presumption of racial segregation, as if an observation of something "interracial" is something requiring comment.
     
  16. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    We don't use the terms, "Colored", or, "Negro", anymore. Does that beget an assumption that something (¿what?) is a done and dusted topic?

    "Interracial" is itself a racist term; we only use it because we must. There are reasons for this, some of which only make sense to racists, but it is also true I just don't hear words like hispasian very often, and we certainly aren't using terms like Nepanesian or Persiquallan. For Americans, there comes a day when we recognize that the only reason we've been counting colors like this the whole time is the sake of one color. And we are, in many ways, still a one-drop country, no matter how much our white supremacists would hope to pretend otherwise; Somali-Dutch American might have some meaning to people studying interracialism, but that young boy is still "black" to the cop who will someday point a gun at him for no good reason.

    I wonder what happens if we start saying "multiethnic", instead. One aspect many people can agree on is that "race is a social construct", or some such expression thereof. The word "interracial" requires artifice; multiethnicity is far less judgmental, and has actual medical merit, but it's a hell of a lot less interesting to the people who fret about interracialism; see Billvon at #11↑ above regarding multivalent multiethnicity. Even the prefix inter- is problematic in this manner, invoking, identifying, or isolating particular dynamism, such as the act of relating. It can be a difficult concept to grasp, but try explaining the difference to yourself without using the prefix itself. Inter- includes a certain aspect of reciprocity [interaction] that implies some manner of action or relationship between otherwise disparate elements, and in the American context of interracialism it is impossible to avoid the point that such very reciprocity is itself offensive for denigrating the "superior" element in the relationship. Multi-, to the other, is pretty static and existential.
     
  17. Zillion Banned Banned

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    Colored & negro. See? I just said it.
     
  18. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Pillock?
     
  19. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Even if we want to limit ourselves to your "we", I'm pretty sure they have recourse to other adjectives that they deem as more palatable. Eg. Barack Obama is the first _________ president of America.
    In otherwords, race is such an issue in society that to be ignorant of it is to be ignorant of society.

    If you say "there are no interracial couples, only couples", you don't destroy racism. You destroy the ability to refer to it as a topic. Obviously, as a society (even if you want to talk exclusively of Manhattan society), we are not in a position where destroying it at the point of language reflects our having destroyed it in our everyday dealings.
     
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  20. birch Valued Senior Member

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    using the term interracial is not racist when discussing issues related to discrimination based on differences; even people who are not racist use that term. ethnicity just breaks it down more. instead of white, your background may be scottish, irish, polish etc.
     
  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    WoW cute couple !
    i bet they get a lot of clicks.
     
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  22. birch Valued Senior Member

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    i didn't make up these titles. they did. lol



    their kids are kinda cute. lol
     
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  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Chindian? Blasian? That's a lot of effort to put into trying to describe someone's racial background. What happens when the Chindian marries the Blasian? Will their children be Chiblindiasian?

    At some point hopefully they become just plain old people.

    (signed an Ausrishrancolian)
     

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