Interbreeding with Animals

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by lixluke, Feb 1, 2007.

  1. valich Registered Senior Member

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    "35,000 year old skull found in a cave in Romania includes features of both modern humans and Neanderthals, possibly suggesting that the two may have interbred thousands of years ago. It could reflect a case in which ancient traits reappear in a modern human, or it could indicate a mixture of populations. Or it simply may be that science has not been able to study enough early modern people to understand their diversity. It's a big deal in that sense, but the combination of characteristics do not necessarily indicate interbreeding between populations. Overall there is no strong evidence for mixing of Neanderthal and modern human populations and this doesn't add any. None of the features cited as unusual in modern humans is exclusively Neanderthal. Rather, they could be features passed down from earlier populations in Africa."

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  5. valich Registered Senior Member

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    Sure, Why not? They're taking 100 base pair segments at a time from numerous fossil finds and piecing it all together. If they can't get good enough source DNA now, they will in the future as more fossils are found. They're claiming that they already have enough, but they have to sift through bacterial DNA contamination by matching it up with conserved sequences. They'll eventually match it all up and have the complete genome. Then we'll have the divergence percentages. Could even possibly clone a Neanderthal.

    http://www.mpg.de/English/illustrat...Releases/2006/pressRelease20060720/index.html

    Wiki article is not too indepth yet, but recheck it in the future as the project unfolds:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Planck_Institute_for_Evolutionary_Anthropology
     
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    cute and cudly until you meet them face to face.

    And abouth the Max Planck Institute, I think it's somewhat dangerous game of playing god but I like it annyway.

    I wonder what's will be the first, alien contact or the neanderthals comming back. I wonder what the ethical protesters would say abouth this. Not to mention what human society would do to them, humans have grown quit a bit because of proper feeding and in the end public education proberly made them a lot smarter.
     
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    Actually, they are cute and cuddly when you meet them face to face, also.
     
  10. valich Registered Senior Member

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    The Max Planck Institute for Evoltionary Anthropology has a lot of research going on, but they will not be the ones that decide the social implications or applications. Check out their website and browze through the myriad maze of links at: http://www.eva.mpg.de/

    Psychology, Evolution, Linguistics, Primatology............
     
  11. Sci-Phenomena Reality is in the Minds Eye Registered Senior Member

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    What if we genetically altered a frog so it could fuck a.... dove. What then?
     
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  13. Satyr Banned Banned

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    That, sir, is inspiring.
    I would guess that if "interbreeding" were tolerated more Michael Jacksons would be born.

    Anyone trying to segragate animals and prevent cows from fornicating with sheep is a biggoted idiot.
    Equality for all!!!!!!!
     
  14. lordmagnus Registered Member

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    YEs, this has actually been discuseed, like humans, and chimps.. they chromosomes are extremely close. You'd have to use semen purification techniques, and intra-uterine insemination techniques so as to remove the antibodies, and prostragalines, then inject the purified sperm pellete directly into the uterus when the recipient subject is in it's heighiest level of fertility
     
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    I'm trying the old fashioned way, privately.

    not much success yet...damn chimp keeps biting my nuts.
     
  16. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    My squirrel does the same thing...
     
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    Is that a chip'munk on your shoulder?
     
  18. valich Registered Senior Member

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    It has been "discussed." What does that mean? What are "semen purification techniques"? I've never heard anything about antibodies preventing interbreeding? And what are "prostragalines"? Is this a typo? Do you have any sources about "realistic discussions" on this? Can you define these terms and procedures? I don't mean to be critical, but not only does all this sound like scifi, but I've never even heard of some of the terms.
     
  19. WVDarby Registered Member

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    lixluke:

    Check your geography knowledge, please. Lions are found on the African continent. Tigers are in India and environs. They are not together in the wild, so they do not interbreed in the wild.
     
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    Huh??? There are indeed lions in Asia. They are a different population (perhaps subspecies) from the African lion; the males don't have manes. Lions, which hunt cooperatively in packs like wolves, were once almost as widespread as wolves and roamed all over Eurasia. They were a feared predator in Asia during early historic times and they have not been wiped out by humans.

    Moreover, the habitat of tigers is not limited to the Indian subcontinent. Surely you've seen the white-and-black Siberian tiger, which again is just a different population or perhaps a subspecies. (Siegfried and Roy are famous for successfully breeding them in captivity.) There are also tigers on Sumatra and elsewhere in the Indies.

    Lions and tigers don't interbreed naturally because their courtship rituals are different. Their behavior simply does not trigger the mating instinct in each other.
     
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    One thing I've always wondered...if a lioness in a pride happened to adopt some tiger cubs, would those cubs hunt cooperatively when they got older?
    Interspecies adoption is rare but has been known to occur.
     
  22. Alex4.0 Registered Member

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    They are already doing this, they are giving mice genes so certain cells glow.
    (Like Cancer cells) and they give goats spider DNA so that the goat milk
    contains the proteins in spider silk. If you want to get technical, you can
    give any creature genes from different creatures, but survival is a different
    story and ligers can't survive in the wild, they are too slow and too big, size
    is not always an advantage for mammal predators.
     
  23. Till Eulenspiegel Registered Member

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    There are both lions and tigers in India. Most Asiatic lions are found in the Gir Forest.

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