Insight from Asian Genes......

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  1. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Dense = Not very intelligent, thick, stupid, of low IQ

    A claimed consequence for inbreeding is a lowering of average intelligence.

    Therefore a dense, i.e. a stupid, population is possible evidence of inbreeding.
     
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  5. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Do you understand the concept of humour, Truthseeker? Are you unable to tell when you are having your leg pulled? Even when it is explained to you?
     
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  7. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, right! Who is pretending again?

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  8. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Shit. You really are dense!
     
  9. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Shut up! Damn you!

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  10. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Let us briefly revisit your opening post:
    From your opening sentence you display an insensitivty and an implicit predeliction for stereotyping races.
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    We have already had one responding Asian note how his fellows view Europeans the same way. Guess what! We all look like apes and monkeys, because we are all primates. Now that would have been a valid insight: not worth sharing with us, but personally useful nonetheless.
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    Well duh! I trust you understand by now that the diversity of the gene pool in Asia is as great as anywhere, other than Africa. That is true for all peoples around the globe - Africa has the greatest diversity. It is one of the pieces of the jigsaw that supports the Out of Africa view of human origins.
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    Again, it has been clearly demonstrated by others on this thread that Asians were no more isolated or inclined to inbreeding than any other continental group on the planet. So your insight is shown to be quite fallacious.
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    Heard of Indo-European have you? You take a peculiarly egocentric view of ethnicity and culture for one who claims to be a blend of so many.
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    1) They don't have any problems
    2) I have nothing against political incorrectness. It's offensive dumb ass stupidity I don't like.
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    The same kind of logic (I shall be kind and accept that you call it logic) can be used to arrive at the same flawed, inaccurate, distorted, nonsense view of the world.

    Given that your entire thesis has been systematically dismantled by the other posters here may I suggest you are the one who should shut up.
     
  11. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    All races were produced by isolation, although not necessarily geographic.
     
  12. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Errrr.... right now, nobody here besides you has the brain power to understand that.... :bugeye:

    So... let's be patient until someday someone with an IQ greater then 90 comes to thsi thread...

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  13. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    You would recognise this person, would you?

    Have you any intention of responding to my systematic dismantling of your arguments two or three posts above, or can I view your zero response as a total concession?
     
  14. squishysponge Registered Senior Member

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    Why do people keep feeding the troll? Judging by his tone and use of language, hes very obviously racist and hes trying to throw in science to justify his racism. Perhaps, pissed off people can just stop feeding him with replys.
     
  15. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Oh geezzz... emotionalist logic.... AGAIN....

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    I have presented mountains of evidence. I haven't seen a single piece of evidence from you people. So I will jut leave this thread to you to play with ok? If you can't come with some reasonable evidence for your assertions, I'm not interested in discussing. :bugeye:
     
  16. dark Registered Member

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    Asians aren't the only ones who look like monkeys.

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  17. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    I posted that link. But yes, I definetely agree...

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    In fact, I think Bush looks more like a monkey then anyone on the planet. Even me...

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  18. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    You are the one making bizarre, uneducated assertions that fly in the face of science. You are the one upon whom it is incumbent to provide evidence. You have failed to do so. Please respond to my systematic refutation of your points several posts above this one.

    If you fail to do so all thinking readers will realise you have conceded. You say you have presented oodles of evidence. The evidence is not evident to me, so please submit it in summary form, referencing the details in specific post if appropriate. Anything less is intellectually dishonest.
     
  19. Hercules Rockefeller Beatings will continue until morale improves. Moderator

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    ........says the 20 year old student with no qualifications even vaguely related to genetics. What is it you're studying? Philosopy, is it?

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    If you grow up one day (yes, I said 'if' not 'when') you will realize what an ass you've made of yourself. In the meantime you would be well advised to seek counseling for that persecution/superiority complex of yours. <P>
     
  20. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    "From dictionary.com:
    in·breed ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nbrd)
    tr.v. in·bred, (-brd) in·breed·ing, in·breeds
    1. To breed by the continued mating of closely related individuals, especially to preserve desirable traits in a stock.
    2. To breed or develop within; engender.
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    1.The breeding of related individuals within an isolated or a closed group of organisms or people.

    So, inbreeding is a problem because it causes genetic complications. It doesn't matter if it is with asians or non-asians. The "race" is irrelevant. Inbreeding is not genetically beneficial.

    So here is the fucking evidence of what I've been talking about for pages.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding
    "Inbreeding is breeding between close relatives.

    If practiced repeatedly, it typically leads to a reduction in genetic diversity. Inbreeding often leads to reduced health and fitness (called consanguinity depression, inbreeding depression); however, livestock breeders often practice inbreeding, then cull unfit offspring, especially when they are trying to establish a new and desirable trait in their stock.

    An inbred individual is likely to possess several physical and health defects, in addition to higher incidence of inheriting a poor trait. They include:
    • reduced fertility both in litter size and in sperm viability
    • increased congenital disorders
    • fluctuating facial asymmetry
    • lower birth rate
    • higher infant mortality
    • slower growth rate
    • smaller adult size
    • loss of immune system function."


      The reason why I said chinese could possibly be more inbred is because they lived in isolation within individual farms for centuries, until not long ago (like 50 years or so). That was my whole point. As it is said in the article, inbreeding reduces genetic diversity, which is on eof the reasons why I encourage interbreeding, multicultural acceptance, etc. That's the whole point of the thread. "

      From page 9....

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      Plus, on this very fucking page!
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_density
      "Population density is a measurement of population per unit area or unit volume. It is frequently applied to living organisms, humans in particular."

      "Population density is a common biological measurement and is often used by conservationists as a more appropriate measure than absolute numbers. Low population densities may cause an extinction vortex, where low densities lead to further reduced fertility. This is referred to as the Allee effect, named after W. C. Allee, who first identified it. Examples of this may include:

      • [*I]ncreased problems with locating mates in areas of low density.
      • Increased inbreeding in areas of low population density.
      • Increased susceptibility to catastrophic events in low population densities.
      • Different species will have different expected densities. For example R-selected species commonly have high population densities, while K-selected species may have lower population densities. Low population densities may be associated with specialised mate location adaptations such as specialised pollinators; as found in the orchid family (Orchidaceae)."
     
  21. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    I'm studying accounting.

    So what? Michael Dell doesn't have a degree and he has some billions of dollars. Who is smarter? You or him? I guess we both know the answer...

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    How about analizing my evidence, instead?
     
  22. iam Banned Banned

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    Slower growth and smaller adult size can be attributed to many factors not just inbreeding. You can't take symptoms alone and make a diagnosis as there are similar symptoms for multiple diagnosis. Did you ever consider that diet and environment may attibute to growth and size. Did you ever consider inherited body size has something to do with ancestry and their environment. For instance, why the epicanthic fold of the eye evolved. Think of cold, subterranean, windy siberia. Asians are getting TALLERand bulkier not because of breeding but because their DIET has changed. They consume more meat and dairy now but that has contributed to other problems such as an increase in obesity, diabetes and other health-related issues when too much fat is consumed. As for slower growth and smaller size, their diet was so healthy in fact that it did not deter brain development or function but resulted in smaller physical size. A diet of primarily fresh fish and vegetables and a moderate amount of meat with little or no dairy and their ENVIRONMENT contributed to their original smaller size. You are misapplying your evidence where it does not belong.
     
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  23. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    That's why we test hypotheses.
     

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