Infinite

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  1. shivansh Registered Member

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    What is infinite?What are the laws of infinite?What happens if we add the same infinite number to the infinite?Will it become 2 *infinite?

    What will happen if we subtract lesser infinite number from that infinite? Will it still remain infinite?
     
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  3. andy1033 Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    With our finite imagination, how can we answer that.

    Maybe one day computers may answer this, as they may go beyond human capacity to think and imagine.

    Until then we have no idea how to answer your question.
     
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  5. Pete It's not rocket surgery Moderator

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  7. quantum_wave Contemplating the "as yet" unknown Valued Senior Member

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    LOL, you can check in but you can't check out.

    I've been interested in what is infinite and what isn't for a long time. There are any number of discussions on it and links that you can go to if you Google it, but there are a few things that you can say with conviction after you think about it for awhile.

    Some things that are infinite can have a beginning, but if they have a beginning they cannot have an end.

    Some things that are infinite don't have a beginning, but even if they don't have a beginning they can't have an end.

    Therefore, things that end are not infinite

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    I wonder if someone can find an exception to that?
     
  8. quantum_wave Contemplating the "as yet" unknown Valued Senior Member

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    And while we're at it, there is this:

    Anything finite is almost nothing, almost never, almost nowhere, relative to the infinite.
     
  9. Lakon Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, discussions about infinity can themselves be infinite ..

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    I'm not confident that anything much at all can be said with conviction - especially about ifinity.

    Confusing. What about, say, a line that ended but had no beginning ? Infinite or not ?

    .. and one that preferably doesn't turn on semantics.
     
  10. Lakon Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed. I've always mused on this .. and the possibility that our universe and everything it it might still be a singularity, and that rather than it expanding, our perception is contracting.
     
  11. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    How many points lie between 1 & 2 on the numberline?
     
  12. Lakon Valued Senior Member

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    Same number as number of points that can lie on a point.
     
  13. quantum_wave Contemplating the "as yet" unknown Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm, yes, infinite; so much for conviction, lol.
     
  14. quantum_wave Contemplating the "as yet" unknown Valued Senior Member

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    Excellent. That is a good one.
     
  15. Lakon Valued Senior Member

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    I think what often happens is we mix imaginary things with real things. A point is imaginary - it has no existence in itself. From some checking I just done in various maths definitions, etc, a point is .. well, just that - a reference point - a marker - no physical existence in itself. It is NO THING.

    Therefore to draw a line on a piece of paper (A THING) and then say how many NO THINGS are on it is nonesensical IMO.
     
  16. quantum_wave Contemplating the "as yet" unknown Valued Senior Member

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    That is true and in a debate you might win on that point. But I gave gmilam the conventional definition of a point relative to a line, i.e. there are an infinite number of points between a start point at 1 and an end point at 2, which is an example of an infinite number with a start and an end that falsifies my logic, even though the actual number of points is nonsensical.
     
  17. Lakon Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, there are an infinite number of imaginary NO THINGS on an imaginary NO THING (an imaginary line) or even on a real thing (a real line drawn on a peice of paper).

    It's funny how we can continue to prattle on about an infinite number of NO THINGS, and make out as though there's some substance to what we're saying.

    I just counted an imaginary number (934,456,907 to be exact) of angels on the head (or is it tip ?) of a pin.

    Really.
     

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