UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Magical Realist, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    If you had produced evidence of alien visitation you wouldn't be blathering like a drooling idiot on some internet forum. As it is you simply make yourself look like a jackass every time you post. Pathological personality.
     
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  3. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Who is producing evidence of alien visitation? I'm merely presenting evidence for ufos, whatever they may turn out to be.
     
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  5. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    We don't need evidence for UFOs

    Evidence is required for alien spaceship flying our Earth skys

    Most if not all of your post have been alone the lines "Look at this" with a link to a video - and the claim in the video is - this is a ghost / paranormal activity / alien spacecraft or other such Woo Woo

    So are you now claiming you do not endorse those views - you merely are the messenger and we need to make up our own mind?

    If that is the situation you may as well shut up shop here. While I don't claim to post for all i would say most in the forum's have a good handle on UFOs etc etc

    If you post a outstanding video which has some genuine points for discussion posts away

    However be prepared to defend AND offer reasonable explanations

    Still waiting for those from / about the helicopter / green light incident

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  7. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. I never proposed that. That was your strawman. All I post here is case after case showing the existence of ufos, defined by the USAF as the following:

    "any airborne object which by performance, aerodynamic characteristics, or unusual features, does not conform to any presently known aircraft or missile type, or which cannot be positively identified as a familiar object."


    Ufologist and astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek puts it this way:

    "We can define the UFO simply as the reported perception of an object or light seen in the sky or upon land the appearance, trajectory, and general dynamic and luminescent behavior of which do not suggest a logical, conventional explanation and which is not only mystifying to the original percipients but remains unidentified after close scrutiny of all available evidence by persons who are technically capable of making a common sense identification, if one is possible."

    http://www.ufopages.com/Control/Reference/AF_R01.htm?UFO-01a,Default-01a

     
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  8. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Well you can understand my, and I suspect others confusion, when you put up a shaky defence of the videos whom others had labelled as alien spacecraft

    Will judge your next post as light entertainment and scrutinise your comments

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  9. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I thought in the past you had proposed such.

    Lets clear the air.

    What do you think is behind these ufos.

    Alex
     
  10. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Several possibilities:

    Time travelers from the future.

    Interdimensional beings.

    Earthbound intelligences. (perhaps a species that lives under the sea)

    Extraterrestrials or AI probes from ET's.

    There are other possibilities as well involving collectively conscious tulpas or archetypes, but that gets into the paranormal or mystical.

    As far as them being any one of these, we just don't know. So I content myself with showing only that they exist as the mysterious objects they are.
     
  11. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    You should probably take that up with these "others" that label ufos "alien spacecraft".
     
  12. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Hi MR.
    Its good to see you are still watching the developments in the field of UFOs.

    I hope everything in your world is good and that you are in good health and happy.

    Time travellers is an interesting thought.

    Is there anything to suggest that time travellers exist?

    What could they be here for one wonders...correcting their history books maybe by observing history as it unfolds.

    Could they alter their time from their travells here.

    Inter dimentional beings again an interesting idea.

    Again what are they up to...exploring another dimention no doubt.

    Is there anything to suggest this is a reasonable explaination that you know about?

    Earth bound intelligences.
    Do you suggest things like secret military experiments?
    That is certainly possible I expect.

    ETs always possible I suppose but is there anything that points to ET.


    If they are a possibility what could be their motivation? is there anything that hints at what they may be doing?

    AI?
    Thats possible I suppose it could overcome various problems of space travel such as living long enough for the journey and surviving radiation and not getting bored which would be a concern given the time for a living being such as ourselves.
    That approach could solve the problems of the enormous fuel bill...slow space travel could be possible with a robotic craft maybe.

    Yes I can see that.

    And I can see how tantalising such a pursuit could be...

    I note you left out focks of birds which is my favourite as you know.

    Do you think there is a portion of these sitings that could be fake?

    And do you think if there are fakes it causes scepticism which may see genuine sightings, as in something out of our ordinary, dismissed as just another fake.

    Hopefully you will have the mystery sorted out before the end of your time on the planet.

    Alex
     
  13. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Like I said I content myself with merely showing ufos exist. I'll leave the speculations and questions about their motives to you. Seems a fruitful way for you to pass your time when you have nothing else pressing.
     
  14. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    You missed out lies and deception but jumped well into Woo Woo land

    Oh as opposed to the above list not being in the same class???

    It has occurred to this dumb Minion that if I put forward a positive idea or a negative dispute I should have some idea of what is considered

    Definitely doable
    Possible
    Maybeable in the future
    Impossible
    Woo Woo

    Since I have already classed your list i don't need to repeat here

    However I would be interested if you can provide your assessment of your list and why these are possibilities?

    What changes to our current understanding of the Universe would it take to elevate my assessment of your list from Woo Woo to Definitely doable?

    Or even up to Possible?

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  15. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I do

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  16. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    I don't waste my time speculating about things we don't know. For now providing compelling evidence for ufos will have to do.
     
  17. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Your list is a litany of speculation

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  18. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    That's why I called them possibilities. I thought I made that clear. Oh well..
     
  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    So possibilities are not speculations?
    Oh well

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  20. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    It's like watching the washing machine, things flip, then they flop, then they flip, then they flop...
     
  21. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    You must live a very exciting life

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  22. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    It's a possibility. But like I said, I prefer not to speculate.
     
  23. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Life under an oxygen tent is always a thrill a minute.
     

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