In defence of space aliens

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Magical Realist, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    An impressive list of what has been said to have occurred
    I like the "defying inertia" and a little less so "disappear (cloaking?)"

    Oh my mistake not making myself clear. Did not mean you personally doing experiments, I would take any UFOer's experiment. Any available?

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  3. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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  5. river

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    Interesting stuff indeed
     
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  7. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Does that mean Witches and Wizards are real? After all, there have been thousands of eyewitnes accounts of people practicing magic dating back thousands of years over hundreds of cultures.

    By your own logic, that should be definitive, conclusive proof that magic is real!
     
  8. birch Valued Senior Member

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    there are people who practice witchcraft so you can call them witches. even religion can be a form of witchcraft through prayer for instance. there is both white and black witchcraft. it's metaphysical manipulation through how much energy you put into it, positive or negative. people even do it unconsciously with minor effects but witchcraft is conscious and with intent.

    think quantum theory and affectations on the unseen level. as far as black witchcraft, those who know the power of it and evil enough to do it, it's the perfect crime. that's why they are called witches as they have secret knowledge. not knowledge in the sense of abstract facts but manipulative, instinctive knowledge

    my mother was a black witch but hers was through religion. both her and her husband had extraordinary (more than usual) negative energy, so this is why i think there was negative paranormal events and omens surrounding them but not directed at them. they used it to direct it at others.
     
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  9. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    I'm definitely NOT having what ever it was they had
    As for the "reports" you can see the gears in the brain grinding over trying to figure out what to put on the page which would at least have a chance of being believable. Massive fail

    Also the reports are remarkably for what was left out but I haven't 6 hours to list the main 50% of them

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  10. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Is not magic

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  11. river

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    They just had knowledge that other people didn't . The church didn't like people who had knowledge .
     
  12. river

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    Yes you do , I await your 6hr critique .
     
  13. river

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    Bizarre

    Maybe a residual left on you , perhaps ?

    could not an entity be on your back ? Draining your life energy ? It seems a possibility .

    And those " others " could have redirected the negative energy onto you . Without you knowing , nor your parents .

    Seek spiritual help , no harm in seeking out this help . If what you say is true , then I have no doubt that seeking spiritual help is important to your wellbeing and health .

    Good luck in this journey

    river
     
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  14. birch Valued Senior Member

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    Yes i felt very heavy and drained around them. Very low vibrational but heavy energy, the kind that pulls down, like i had to carry all their baggage (emotional/mental). I felt like they were feeding (parasitic, especially the stepfather) off me too because even though everyone has a dark side, mine was nowhere dark as theirs. This is the worst violation as it feels as if someone is stealing your identity. The stronger they became, the weaker i became. Thats why i was disgusted and hateful when they would try and find out about me to still have control like they lost their cloaking device and food (good in me). It burns me up that the public doesnt know about monsters who operate in the most creepy, manipulative and depraved motives that are not just based on the physical. These types of abusers are even more conniving and horrid. Its like they want to steal your very soul because theirs is nasty! The metaphor of vampires is real in differing ways and its not always blood they want.

    Just by physically getting and moving away from them, the energies around me and my life improved. I was also not attracting as much negativity (meaning more people like them) as much either but their negative effects are undeniable and have affected me nonetheless, because of residual damage. This is because they violated me so intimately and deeply.

    The reason why i have extreme views is because i experienced extreme malevalent people. Those two were always conniving something evil between them. i also know that real evil exists and i also know the paranormal is real because of them.

    That wasnt the end of my surprise about this world. When i was a child i thought surely people would discover or know they were evil. Ethics that is taught versus what people really are and the way the world really works while keeping the facade going is what is the usual. Others keep that facade going too. You learn good is not alway rewarded and evil surely can be rewarded just as or more. You learn the world does run on predation. There was no law of karma or god caring for you etc. Of course what you find out is there are more people like them on that type of frequency (more common) than very good people so it led to hate and disgust of this world.

    The proof is in the pudding. They got away with it with the help of society and have always and are doing better than me. The great thing in favor of damage is you almost can't undo it or you'll be spending so much time recovering from the mess, its effective overall. Its like before a race someone cripples you. Thats the favorite go-to strategy of evil.

    Why society is dishonest and a lie isnt so much they do such hideous things covertly but because there is a pretense and veneer that they dont and gain everything 'normally' and aboveboard. Those who have project to society that they havent and they just mirror this bs back and forth while all the ugliness and skeletons remain hidden. This is the way it is and life goes on.
     
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  15. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Tell me all the magic these people witnessed. Must be available somewhere. Did they actually witness magic firsthand or the village old lady using herbs to heal the sick?

    Truth be told I actually believe in the psychic powers of the mind to manipulate events to its advantage. The power to predict the future, to acquire information from objects, to read minds, to influence events with focused intent, and synchronicities, all lies latent in our own minds. And what were called witches and seers back then were simply people gifted with some of these abilities.
     
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  16. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    They all saw the alien Fatima. Prove I'm wrong.
     
  17. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Magical Realist:

    All anecdotal, of course.

    You mean the case where the school children saw the re-entry of the rocket that launched the Cosmos 2290 satellite? The same case in which unscrupulous UFO "investigators" coaxed and prompted the children until they told the investigators what they wanted to hear? That case?

    You have provided no confirmation of any "craft" as described.

    The point, which you missed as usual, is that eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable and so cannot be used in isolation to establish the reality of extraordinary paranormal events. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidenc. You know this.

    You think that watching youtube videos with you mouth open and your mind closed amounts to "reviewing the evidence". Hint: it doesn't.

    I can predict the traits of fairies based on previous accounts. They are often silent, can merge into one form, can hover, speed off, defy inertia, appear and disappear at will, leave marks on grass and soil, shoot light beams out of themselves, and be seen by passengers through side windows.

    Fairies must be real, I tell you!

    Of course you believe this.

    With zero demonstrated ability to think critically about anything, you're just a dupe who is readily sucked in by any nonsense that appeals to your liking for fantasy. Bigfoot, fairies, psychic powers, ghosts, UFOs, conspiracy theories - you believe in all of them.

    Like I told birch, it's not due to lack of intelligence. I think there's little doubt that you could think rationally if you wanted to, but you are quite adamant that you never will. Not when it comes to these matters. You make a quite interesting study. I wonder what happened to you so you got like this.
     
  18. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    And how did you miss out carry wands to grant wishes?

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  19. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Nothing disingenuous there. Skeptics are going to be ... skeptical. Suck it up, MR.

    It's quite normal, I assure you. Some of us think critically. Some don't. You're just one of the ones who won't.

    Skeptics who have seen literally hundreds of these cases, with a whole lot of debunked ones and a whole lot more where the evidence is just shoddy or missing completely, may understandably be somewhat less excited by the next fuzzy photo or unverified claim than the average person encountering the dubious world of UFO fanboyism for the first time. Are you surprised?

    Maybe if your evidence was off a semi-decent standard, you'd get a better reaction.

    Essentially, your argument is that skeptics are wrong because their explanations are boring and mundane. The skeptics, on the other hand, tend to just observe that you're making shit up.

    Believe me, a lot of skeptics would like nothing better than or an alien spaceship to land and little green men come out to deliver a greeting to humanity. Unfortunately, skeptics also like to live in the real world, and no aliens have ever visited, as far as we can tell. It's those pesky things called facts that get in the way of a good fantasy, every time.

    Please don't tell lies. The problem, as you know, is not that there is no evidence; it is that the available evidence is so patently weak and unconvincing. Add to that the prevalence of fakery in the area of UFOs and you can hardly blame skeptics for being dismissive of your wide-eyed credulous enthusiasm for this fringe belief you have.

    Hehe. Well said, Magical Realist. Well said. Perhaps one day you will turn on your brain. If you do, you can revisit this post and chuckle along with me.

    What you see as denial is actually just skeptics asking the basic questions that you failed to ask before you started believing in the crap you're presenting.

    Hehe. The irony. The irony.

    You're confusing skepticism with dogmatism or cynicism. They are not the same thing. Skepticism is an approach to evaluating claims, not the prejudgment of the claims themselves. Compare and contrast your own approach. (I know you won't.)
     
  20. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    All eyewitness accounts..


    Oh right..the children mistook a re-entry rocket in the sky for a flying saucer that lands in a field with 2 alien creatures exiting from it. And ufo investigators didn't "prompt" the kids to describe this event. They told their teachers about it before the investigators even got there. There obviously had to be a reason the investigators came there in the first place!

    A huge black triangle flying in the sky with lights on it isn't a craft? What is it then?

    Eyewitnesses are completely reliable especially when several of them see the same thing at the same time. There are numerous instances of multiply-witnessed ufos:

    http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/CaseView.asp?section=multiplewitnesses

    That sounds like an ad hom again. Are you getting frustrated?

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    Exactly zero of which is based on any eyewitness accounts..

    Whatever you say James. You're the self-proclaimed critical thinker here..

    That's another ad hom James. Are you that hard-up for arguments already?

    I can tell when you have no arguments left when you make this personal about me. You really should focus more on what you're trying persuade me of here, whatever that is.

    Bonus case #3: Levelland Texas ufo sightings:

     
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  21. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    [QUOTE="Magical Realist, post: 3495224, member: 158779"I can tell when you have no arguments left when you make this personal about me. You really should focus more on what you're trying persuade me of here, whatever that is.[/QUOTE]
    Oh, I'm going to repost that a lot. Thank!!!!
     
  22. river

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    life does go on and the only way it will change is if we fight against this krap .
     
  23. river

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    space aliens , there three types of advanced space craft , German , alien , and Human made craft ( back engineered from crashed craft ) .

    they all exist .
     

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