I don't think any skeptic here would disagree. Unfortunately we have someone generally unwilling to explore further, rather insisting that their interpretation is correct, and that there is no reason to doubt the eye-witness accounts (including their interpretation) etc. To that person it is a closed case. Most of the argument in this thread is the skeptic trying to explain why such an interpretation should not be taken at face value, why there needs to be more convincing evidence, why there needs to be that further exploration. It is not a closing down of the possibility of the believer's claims, only a closing down of the believer's certainty. However, while this is how I have read this thread, I appreciate that some see it as efforts to close down even the possibility of the claim, dismissing it out of hand. As to who is reading the thread more accurately in that regard, I'm happy to agree to disagree. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!