UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Magical Realist, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. river

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    Right now Alien spaceships are actually much less nonsense .
     
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  3. river

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    I'll leave it to yeah .
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Time for you to stop making empty claims and to start presenting your evidence. Please go ahead.
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Point to where the maths is in error?
     
  8. river

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    Blackholes
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Only at the Singularity where our models break down. That is no evidence against BH's. Same applies to the BB and why we can only reasonably theorise from t+10-43 seconds.
    The maths is not in error with regards to accepted theories.
     
  10. river

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    • Please support claims like this one with appropriate arguments and evidence. This is troll-like behaviour.


    The maths maybe not , but in regards to real physical objects , blackholes are mathematical fantasy .
     
  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Well then all you need to explain is the effects we see that are put down to BH's and of course the photo evidence that was forthcoming last year. But all we are going to get is more unsupported fairy tale rhetoric, without references, links or evidence.

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  12. river

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    Think about the physical things that need to happen for any blackhole to be true .

    Gravity draws in matter , yet we know that gravity waves move outward from the source , not inward , towards the centre .

    A contradiction .
     
  13. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Gravitational waves emenate from the source, otherwise you are speaking crap.
    Now please, show some evidence that BH's do not exist, not your silly baseless fairy tale nonsense....explain the effects we see. Explain the photo taken last year.
    Isn't this the sort of nonsense you were given a holiday for? making unsupported claims?
    Please note also they are gravitational waves or radiation, NOT gravity waves!!!!
    And they emenate from the source of coalescing BH's/Neutron stars or S/Nova explosions or other catastrophic happening.
     
  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Right now we have no evidence, zilch, nada evidence for any alien craft. Unless of course you yourself have been kidnapped and anally probed? Care to share?

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  15. river

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    Gravity ,( gravitational ) waves do emanate from the source . From the frequency that was looked for ,for the evidence of gravity waves .

    They are not really gravity waves . These waves are just part of the spectrum of energy and matter .

    All forms of energy and matter are present now , and will always
     
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  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Which beach are you referring to? Bondi?? Maroubra where I am?

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  17. river

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    Have fun !!!!
     
  18. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    What spectrum? what matter? Gravitational radiation are ripples in spacetime, nothing more, nothing less.
    Matter/particles did not form until 10-35 seconds post BB and the first atomic nuclear at around 3 minutes, while the first elements H and He at around 380,000 years.
    The BB was the evolution of space and time [spacetime] as per my many links and references river.
     
  19. river

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    The full spectrum in the Universe .

    Any matter form

    Gravitational Radiation source is ?
     
  20. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, so? you are spouting scientific meaning nonsense river. What about the spectrum? we see in the visible, gamma and infra red.
    What I said above in 3590
     
  21. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    So, in River's world, Black Holes are fantasy and ET is real. Lol.
     
  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Moderator note: river has been warned for trolling.

    river has repeatedly made unsupported claims that various scientific ideas and theories are flawed or incorrect. Each time he has been asked to support his claims with appropriate argument and/or evidence he has either tried to change the subject or has produced useless one-word or one-line fragments, as in this example showing a recent exchange:


    river is currently excluded from posting to any of our Science sections. Now he is bringing his anti-science rhetoric into other subforums and trolling by making empty claims.

    Due to accumulated warning points, river will be taking a two week break from sciforums.

    This current warning follows a recent break for essentially the same kind of behaviour. If there is no visible change in behaviour upon river's return, it is very likely that river will be permanently banned.
     
  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I wonder if River thinks that boats on lakes can only move in the same direction as the waves...

    By Riverian Logic, boats moving in the opposite direction of the waves would be a contradiction...
     

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