Impeach Xev? Serious Poll!

Discussion in 'SF Open Government' started by ElectricFetus, Apr 29, 2004.

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Impeach Xev from moderator position?

Poll closed May 20, 2004.
  1. Yes

    38 vote(s)
    46.3%
  2. No

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  1. Bells Staff Member

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    So you say dear child, but from where I'm sitting and reading your posts in here, it is well implied.

    I have to ask you something paul. Are you physically incapable of typing the word 'she'? And just my opinion, but you're taking this place a tad too seriously. Xev does moderate. In her forum. When she participates in other forums, she does not moderate. Do you get it now? Has it sunk in? She only moderates on one forum on this site. When she's posting in other forums, she's just a member like you. What is it with you paul? Are you hankering to become a moderator or something? Trying to tell the big boss of how you would do the job or how the job should be done? Sheesh let it go.

    Yes... it's always fun until someone loses an eye. She is not a parental figure. She's a moderator. She ensures that the threads in her forum stay on track and aren't sidelined. That's not a responsibility unless she makes it one. It's just how she may prefer to maintain her forum. Or she may wish to just let it all go and let the threads go in whatever direction it goes in. You do realise that she does have a life outside of this don't you? Well one would hope she does. But that aside, the only responsibility Xev should have is to herself. Not to some unknown ninny's on the internet.

    She's not a parental figure paul. She's not someone anyone would look up to on here. Tell me something, where you work, do you view your supervisor or superior as a parental figure? Xev's responsibility if you wish to call it that is to run her forum as she chooses. She moderates. Maybe not to your liking, but she does moderate. The other moderators who have commented in this thread have stated that they don't have a problem with the way she moderates, so why are you still going on about it? So what's your problem? She's not moderating enough? She's mean to you and calls you paula? She dares say the word 'race' in your presence? Grow up and find something more worthwhile to whine about. 'Little league coach'... heh.. do you want her to take you for ice-cream after each of your little discussions?

    Again... it's 'her'. And lordy, if it were up to you moderators would not be allowed to have an opinion and would always agree with all that everyone says. Would you be typing in here if she supported your stance on whether 'race' exists or not?

    Let me guess. You were whining like an old woman about how Xev spoke to you and they told you that if you have a complaint that you should post it in this particular forum. That's not asking you to come here to submit your views paul, it's more along the lines of trying to be polite in telling you to quit whining and leave them alone. The moderators on here have stated that they don't have a problem with how she moderates. Her personality is not in question here but how she moderates and they've stated on the first pages of this thread that they don't have a problem with how she moderates. Again I ask why do you have a problem with it? You hankering to take on the job yourself if you manage to push her out?

    So if I told you that you whine like a bitch in heat I would be showing little regard for this forum? Or would I just be putting forth an opinion? How should she behave so that she shows that she cares about SF and its members? Should she behave like you do? Ah yes, but you're a mere member so that would mean that she must somehow act better than you do, in this case meaning whine less. Give me a break paul. Did you expect her to come forth and fight for her honour? Heh... I can only speak for myself but all I'm doing is laughing... at you actually

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    ... Get a life paul. The other moderators don't have a problem with her moderating style and nor does porf. So all this bitching from you is only working at relieving my boredom at the moment. And lastly, it's 'she'. Can you type 'she'? Or is this some inane way of trying to get back at her for calling you paula?

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  3. paulsamuel Registered Senior Member

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    another example of xev's intellectual repertoire:

    in a response to spuriousmonkey

     
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  5. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    That is how she is. Most people would jump on that one, but I know her broken record.

    To be honest I provoked her slightly here and started using her own words to annoy her, but in my defense that was only after I honestly asked what a 'perameter' was since she used the word twice in one post. She suggested that I use a dictionary. Of course then she claimed that my only argument was to point out typos. No my dear Xev, I thought that maybe perameter was an actual word and just wanted to be sure.

    But of course at this point I don't bother having a serious exchange with her since the only thing she does is try to irritate you. I can do the same of course. But I try to refrain from obvious profanities, which are too easy, and will scare off other sciforum members, as they have done in the past.

    Should a moderator use these kind of retorts?

    I guess some people might think they are funny.
    Other peope will find them abusive.

    I wouldn't give a shit normally, except that she is a moderator. And I think I might see a pattern here. Every time her position is under fire she calms down a bit with the insults.

    But of course this all is just my opinion. Feel free to disagree. And xev might come in here now and comment on the size of my penis.
     
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  7. paulsamuel Registered Senior Member

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    well, people who come here, and want to form an opinion on the question at hand, might want a sampling of xev, which i'll be happy to provide.
     
  8. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    That shouldn't be too difficult.
     
  9. paulsamuel Registered Senior Member

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    your post boils down to four points

    1) "Xev moderates." You fail to qualify that statement, and I don't blame you.

    2) "Xev's not a parental figure." We've addressed that in a previous post and you even contradicted yourself after you wrote it.

    3) "Xev has no responsibility as a moderator except to herself." I disagree with you on this point, but there's no way for me to know because I don't know the duties of a moderator in this forum. If there are no duties, then you're right, Xev has no responsibilities. But then why have moderators? I suspect there are some duties that Xev is responsible for.

    4) "The other moderators have no problem with the way she moderates." You may be right, but I don't see how you could know this. I suspect you're just guessing based on the fact that she hasn't been tossed yet. I think I was contacted for a reason, and maybe some moderators are fed up. I'm just guessing too, but I admit it.

    The rest of your post is bullshit; irrelevant personal attacks on me. I won't comment on those.
     
  10. Bells Staff Member

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    I'm sure most people would have their own experiences and own opinions. Most of us have had a run in with the person in question. Myself included. Do I like her? Personally no I don't. She knows that and I am well aware that the feeling is mutual. But then I don't know her, so who really knows what she's like when she's not typing. But then, I don't really like many people on here so who really cares? A point to note is that she's always been as she is now. Does anyone have any recollection of Xev being sweet and nice? I certainly don't. She was made a moderator with the other members having full knowledge of her persona. I have seen so many of these 'ban Xev' threads that they've become tedious. But the question about banning her here is not one based on personality. It's based on her ability to moderate and the manner in which she moderates the philosophy forum.

    You think you were contacted for a reason? This is becoming like the X-Files with you as Mulder. Do you put an X on your computer screen and the informant contacts you with the info?

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    ... ok jokes aside...

    From Porf on page 1 of this thread:
    From James on the same page of this thread, following on from Porf's comments:
    From Coffee following James' comment on the same page:
    Again from James on page 1:
    And then we have Tiassa's comment (which had me laughing by the way):
    Now Paul, you were contacted by a moderator because of why?... They seem to want to keep her around. From the replies on page one of this thread, they don't appear to have a problem with how she moderates. That's how I know this, or would hazard a guess from those replies...

    Like many in here, I specialise in typing bullshit

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    . Don't you feel as though you're in good company?

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    You are upset that she's made fun of you. You have your reasons to be. But does the fact that she's known to insult people make her a bad moderator? We all participate in trading insults in here, why shouldn't she? Just because she's a moderator doesn't mean that she's not allowed to say what she thinks. I'm going to ask you this again Paul. If she agreed with you on the 'race' issue, would you be posting as you have in here?
     
  11. paulsamuel Registered Senior Member

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    No one is trying to ban Xev. The question is an opinion poll on whether Xev should continue to moderate. You know that. Xev doesn't even want to moderate.

    Whether you believe that a moderator contacted me or not is independent of the fact. It's also irrelevant to the thread, but you asked me why I was here, and I told you. There's probably no need to keep bringing it up, as I'm never gonna make you believe (mostly because I don't care if you believe or not) and you're never gonna change the fact that it happened.

    So, what you meant to say was that some moderators don't have a problem with her. OK. I never argued against that.

    I didn't start this poll/thread. I didn't even know it existed until it was pointed out to me (by the moderator you don't believe exists).

    I don't care that she is insulting me. I don't give a crap. I never responded even once to her insults. The only thing I responded to was her vulgarity and only to point out how disgusting it is.

    I don't care if she agrees with me or not. A lot of people don't agree with me and I don't start banning polls or threads.

    The question remains upon which this poll was started and upon which I expressed my opinion. You have every right to disagree.
     
  12. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    So basically your saying you have no reason to bannish her? I mean we pretty well covered that Xev writing style and her moderating abilities are two separate things. So what is your reasoning again?
     
  13. paulsamuel Registered Senior Member

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    There is no banning here as I understand it. Just removing her from moderating. I wouldn't vote to ban Xev.
    I've already addressed my reasons, and I suggest you go back to review my posts. There's no need to reiterate I think. I will continue to post xev examples as they appear for edification purposes.
     
  14. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry for the mis-wording, all this talk of banishing people has me confused. Could you state your reasoning again because I thought many of us already cover how her eccentric attitude is separate from her job as moderator.
     
  15. paulsamuel Registered Senior Member

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    05-04-04, 10:01 AM
    05-04-04, 11:06 AM

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    These examples reflect my opinion well.
     
  16. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    ya ya ah ya we went over that about her behavior being separate from her moderating position.
     
  17. SwedishFish Conspirator Registered Senior Member

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    good god! if you don't stop quoting entire bodies of text, i'm going to start a poll to ban you. it is against the rules (that little link at the top of the screen you conveniently missed).
     
  18. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    i hope this doesn't tie. It's getting so annoying... can't you open minded people cope with her? I mean; is she that much of a problem? so you don't agree with her... big deal! You can't shut up everyone you don't agree with. I'm with an>droid.v2 - just ignore it if your eyes are too sensitive.

    Oh, but I back Padma up.
     
  19. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    an>roid.v2,

    ah sorry about that I was talikg into paulsamuel and her reply to me jsut above yours.
     
  20. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    I think his point was that you can't ignore her because she is a moderator.
     
  21. Porfiry Nomad Registered Senior Member

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    Your eyes can't skip over her posts, eh? Some mysterious force is compelling you to read every word?
     
  22. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    I have this hightech wheel on my mouse allowing my to quickly scroll past anything, its truely amazing.
     
  23. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    My mouse has two "high tech" wheels

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    I can scroll away from something vertically or horizontally!
     
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