If you were to pray to God...?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Bowser, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Doesn't that responsibility sit on humanity's shoulders?
     
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  3. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Not if there is an omnipotent god who created everything.

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  5. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps he will use you to save the world.
     
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  7. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps. LOL No sign of it so far.

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  8. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    "He will." Aren't we being presumptuous regarding God's gender?
     
  9. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Does god have a penis?

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  10. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    According to pantheists, God has all of them.
     
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  11. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Depends on perspective. To ourselves, our problems mean everything. Meaning is ascribed in relation, not objectively.

    I don't fall for the whole mind-body dualism that underlies that dichotomy.
     
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  12. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    The rest of your post was based on a (false) premise I was redressing.

    If meaningfulness was arrived at through the absence of terminal disease etc, one would see it in such persons. Unfortunately, we don't. Actually its more the case that things like terminal illness, etc (ie, material incompleteness) plays a dynamic role in engineering meaningfulness.

    If one exists eternally, it's not clear what you are talking about with dying.

    Sonmi-451:I believe death is only a door. One closes, and another opens. If I were to imagine heaven, I would imagine a door opening. And he would be waiting for me there.

    Sonmi-451: Our lives are not our own,from womb to tomb we are bound to others. With each crime, and every act of kindness we birth our future



    Hence the problems with solutions you offer where everyone does.

    Is that suppose to support your position or challenge it?

    Such as?

    I wonder if you think about the ramifications of living in a world where everyone is a lottery winner.

    So you think having 2 arms automatically grants you a type of superior happiness and self satisfaction that a person with 1 arm does not have access to?
    How does that work exactly?

    Sounds like a square circle.

    I missed the bit where you elaborated on what facility an individual requires in order to be happy and satisfied to such a degree that they don't desire to infringe on the happiness of others.
     
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  13. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Okay...She. I don't think it really matters.
     
  14. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    So our problems have importance only if we give them meaning/power?

    So you are meat or spirit?
     
  15. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    That's just as presumptuous, God could be all genders, or no gender at all. For an entity that is perceived to thrive on adoration, don't you think it would be sensitive to the correct acknowledgment of its characteristics? Aren't you?
     
  16. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    I think God has no gender, or is both, depending on how you view God. If not for your body, you would have no gender. Either way, I don't believe God gives a shit about his pronouns.
     
  17. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    So I guess you're saying that God is an advocate for gender fluidity, and that we are free to address God as Your Shittiness.
     
  18. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    He doesn't advocate, nor does he take credit for anything.
     
  19. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    If it doesn't advocate, how do we discern its will?
     
  20. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    What makes you think you were meant to discern anything. Do you question the sun during the day, the clouds above, a budding flower. What can your mind contrive that will discern the will of God?

    You're better off not worrying about it and simply living your life.
     
  21. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Not entirely. Their measurable impacts or effects also contribute to their importance. But those effects are relative to the frame of reference.

    I don't know why you insist on repeating the question when I already answered. I do not think it's an "either-or" thing.
     
  22. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    In case you hadn't noticed, discerning and questioning things happen to be universal traits among human beings. If a notion exists to contemplate, it tends to get contemplated.
    No worries at all, just doin some contemplatin.
     

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