If you were to pray to God...?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Bowser, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. Goldtop Registered Senior Member

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    You can describe it wearing a bag over your head while playing Mozart's Requiem on a ukulele, but you'll always run into the same problem if you try and support prayer induced intervention from God.


    Oh gee, I dunno, hyuck, maybe those folks wouldn't have had to die. Doh.
     
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  3. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    If bible-God did exist i woud plot to kill it… an its interestin to watch believers atempt to justify the holey-bible monster-God as an entity worthy of worship.!!!
     
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  5. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Given that you are probably the third person to consecutively miss the didactic element, it doesn't seem to be the case.



    Oh the injustice! Oh hark thee, where is the humanity!! Tis the world naught but a stage with players!!!
     
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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Musika I just love your written expression you are a talent...if you wrote a book I would read it and if you signed it I would buy it.

    And yes the world is full of players most of whom are pretenders making up fantasy and promoting it as truth.
    I hope you find truth.
    Alex
     
  8. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    IF I find there is an omnipotent god who caused the writing of the bible, I must conclude that god wanted me to not believe it.



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    A prime example of why I cannot believe the bible.

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  9. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    We could and should make a list.
    Alex
     
  10. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Can you not learn from this wise man's didactic post?

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  11. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Well, that is part of why I started the Religious Nonsense thread. Did you see what happened there?

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  12. Goldtop Registered Senior Member

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    So, the moral you're teaching here is that God will not save your life no matter how much or how hard you pray, but when it comes to tracking down some firewood, God will bless you. Of course, any idiot can get firewood.


    I'm guessing you had no family members or close friends die in that tsunami.

    Did you know it happened right after Jesus' birthday? Maybe Jesus was upset because he didn't get the BB gun he wanted from Santa and decided to have a second coming.
     
  13. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    I might ask god to sit on a broomstick.

    That is, if I believed there is such a thing as a broomstick.

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  14. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Yep.
    I definitely should have used "didactic" instead of "anecdotal".

    If the world is a stage, praying for stage props, regardless whether its firewood, a life raft, half a ton of gold bullion, or a forehead free from acne, remains simply stage props. If an actor is excited about the prospect of playing a king in a drama because that will enable them a lifetime of luxury, they are either very stupid or overly dedicated to playing the part (they could also be a prime candidate for american politics ..... ).

    The whole point about the firewood was that God could have delivered much more than stage props for a role destined for a closing curtain, but wasn't asked.

    I'm guessing you view family relationships as eternal, or at least ascribe such temporary relationships with eternal values ("together forever").
    I recall one lawyer in the field of marriage and estates who advised, doing aside with one dying, the other alternative for married couples is a divorce rate at 100% ... meaning you will either lawyer up and get divorced or have the other one die and face separation that way.
    In our saner moments, we understand we will leave sooner or later, and probably in the same manner that we appeared, namely screaming with nothing on a stinky bed ... however it's practically impossible to disengage from the stagely (ie, worldly) appeal of things. Calling upon God as some sort of props manager simply reveals a type of ignorance about our relationship with this world (of course, an atheist is already in a position of ignorance about God, so, given present company, there's probably no need for that as an addition).

    I believe George R R Martin also received hate mail when certain lead characters met grizzily ends.
    I don't know if there is any in-depth analysis of his writing that shows he treats the characters within his dramas more kindly on his birthday.
     
  15. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I am learning but perhaps not what you think you teach.
    I have learnt that even folk who seem intelligent and well educated can set reason aside to believe whatever it is they want to believe.
    Perhaps your education leaves you believing you are now equipped to think and yet I really wonder if you really can given the fact you seem to prefer made up stories from the bronze age over testable facts.
    I often say to folk not to trust anyone particularly themselves knowing folk can talk themselves into believing whatever it is they want to believe.
    Please have a chat with yourself and determine if your thoughts can be trusted to be valid.
    Alex
     
  16. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    LOL I was being sarcastic.

    Did you confuse me with someone else?

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  17. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Lol
    Sounds like I could be a contender for Kilgore Trout.

    Then it begs the question, if its a stage with players, what are the actual roles after the curtains drop.
     
  18. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Having written plays & done other work in theatre, it struck me what a great help an artificial simulation could be if it could be watched by an audience outside the simulation. Specially if all the actors' memories are subdued until the current production is done. Unaware of their true selves, the actors could play their parts as if they actually are the characters.
    Perhaps that is what this world is & at some point we come out of it & laugh about it & congratulate each other on a job well done.
    Maybe there are trillions of beings watching & hearing everything we do, say & think.
    I wonder whether there is a laugh track & theme music.

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  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    You are very clever which I admire and I admit I missed the sarcasm.
    Alex
     
  20. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Fertilizer or smoke.
    Alex
     
  21. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    This is the way it is..the biker the lawyer the priest they all play a character outside of who they are and unfortunately none know it.
    My role is that of grumpy old man an easy role with plenty of motivation to play my role to perfection.
    Alex
     
  22. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Then that certainly explains the dominant preponderance for stage props and drama.
     
  23. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Isn't that how everyone feels about whatever role they are playing?
     

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