If we clone neanderthals, will they have legal rights?

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  1. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    They were just readily accessible

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    Thanks

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  3. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    why not? Is it ethical to implant a woman with 8 embryos? No, but it happened.
    I think there are women out there attention starved enough to volunteer.
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Because we have rules for such things and this is outside the scope of current research ethics.

    Even medical research.
     
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  7. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Y'all are funny! All this silly talk about "human rights" for cloned Neanderthals ...while better than half of the existing HUMAN population on Earth are without those very same "human rights" even as y'all argue about it for clones.

    Y'all are really strange people, ...really you are!

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  8. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    But we still want human rights

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  9. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    ...LOL! But ya' don't even know what the fuck they are!! ...LOL!

    Morality and human rights come from the muzzle of a gun!! Whoever has or controls the biggest gun dictates morality and human rights.

    Some of y'all seem to think that just being "human" entitles you to those rights; some of you think that god gave you those human rights; ...; yet human rights are denied and taken away from humans all the time, every day, all over the freakin' world. Guns and ammo, and the willingness to use 'em, is where human rights and morality come from.

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  10. John99 Banned Banned

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    oh yeah. they were people.
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I know perfectly what we are.
    We are fucked-up Apes

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    Or did you mean the Neanderthals ? They were humans.
     
  12. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    What are you two talking about?????

    Read the posts more carefully:

    “Originally Posted by Enmos: But we still want human rights”

    To which I said: "...LOL! But ya' don't even know what the fuck they are!! ...LOL!"

    I was talking about human rights, not the apes or neanders or humans or.....

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  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Not human rights, Baron, legal rights.

    e.g. if a neanderthal goes through a red light, should he be arrested?

    can he rent an apartment if he can sign his name?
     
  14. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Legal rights come directly from human rights, SAM.

    But regardless, legal rights also come directly from the muzzle of a gun!

    Baron Max
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Human rights are artificial, I don't know what else to say about them..
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I'm operating under the assumption that as defined under biology, neanderthals will have the same human rights as other humans in such position of being experimented on.
     
  17. mrow Unless Registered Senior Member

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    Neanderthals are a separate species from humans, though. So why operate under that assumption?
     
  18. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    It's not about species. It's about what level of genetic similarity to Homo sapiens grants you legal rights

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  19. LifeinTechnicolor Registered Senior Member

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    Well, I think they wouldnt have legal rights...Due to the fact the "Neanderthalls" wouldnt know what legal rights where.
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    So you think they would be locked up in zoos?

    And you think they would have no understanding of moral accountability?
     
  21. mrow Unless Registered Senior Member

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    Many severely mentally handicapped people don't know what legal rights are, but they have them.
     
  22. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    You don't know that. What if they are about as intelligent as we are ?
    And, naturally, they would grow up around humans.
     
  23. mrow Unless Registered Senior Member

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    No, I didn't say that. I don't think they would be. I'm not positive they would have the exact same legal rights as humans, but I'm sure they'd have more than some other species do, such as chimpanzees. I was merely saying one can't assume they'd have the same rights as humans since they are not humans and a situation like this has yet to arise. As Enmos said, it comes down to whether or not they're close enough.
     

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