If we clone neanderthals, will they have legal rights?

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  1. Xylene Valued Senior Member

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    So are Jews, Armenians, Maoris, Australian aborigines, et. al., and look what happened to them.

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    Hopefully, we've grown up a bit since then.
     
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  3. John99 Banned Banned

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    if they are human then why the distinction?
     
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  5. Xylene Valued Senior Member

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    Too true, and I should know--I was born in London

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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Two Hoverflies (Family Syrphidae):

    Volucella bombylans

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    Syrphus ribesii

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    So if they are both hoverflies, why the distinction ?

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  8. John99 Banned Banned

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    maybe because they are very different.

    do they mate with one another?
     
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    You really aren't thinking right now, are you ? :bugeye:
    Have you read post 13 ?

    No.
     
  10. John99 Banned Banned

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    well there is your answer then. insects dont fit into this discussion anyway. and i dont appreciate the insult.
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    It's an observation

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    Insects fit perfectly into this discussion for the current purpose of trying to make you see the light.
    Please read post 13.
     
  12. John99 Banned Banned

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    if they are human then they are human.

    are an african, a european and an asian all human?

    but you know what your a little too arrogant for me to be bothering with today.
     
  13. Burada Registered Senior Member

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    What's new? We've elected them in the past as our presidents.
     
  14. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Wow !

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    Jesus Christ, John.. I'm not even going to answer that one.. :bugeye:

    Then stop asking these incredibly stupid questions.
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Neanderthals are of the genus homo, so they are men biological and if the can think they are sapiens (wise men think/wise? Paris hilton is considerd official human)
    a human is homo sapiens
     
  17. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    The topic reminds me of an early 90's television drama "Chimera".

    Where peoples fears of science can be taken and distorted. (Similar to "Frankenstein")

    As for if Neanderthals have rights?

    Well admittedly just using Wikipedia as an unverified source can be academic suicide, so take it as it is:
    If this was verified, then it would suggest that they used tools and had social interaction beyond that of "animals". So in every essence they would have to have rights. However there are a number of concerns that could be raised, I mean to bring a species back that's sentient with the capability of learning beyond that of pets, would indeed place their rights to privacy into question, which they obviously wouldn't have since they would be created to be a "sideshow freak".

    Being birthed from a Chimp itself could be insultive, even if it was it's mother.
     
  18. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    if we were really going to do this why wouldnt you use a human mother?
    after all WE are the closest relitives to them, not chimps
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Ethical issues in research. You'd never get any research organisation to approve.
     
  20. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    could a chimp even give birth to a neaderthaul?
    I dont know much about there physiology but im assuming they are around the same hight as us with a similar sized head (i think i herd that there head was actually LARGER than ours). A chimp is about half the hight of a human and has a much smaller head

    There for a) the baby wouldnt fit through the birth cannal and b) the baby probably would be born very premie and\or kill the mother because it is to large for the mother
     
  21. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    You only posted that to show off.

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    Fine, fine, we're all veeeeerry impressed, all right? Now stop it. Bad Enmos.
     
  22. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    And I would hope that such neanderthals would have rights. Not that you'd expect every country in the world to follow that.
     
  23. Aerika Registered Senior Member

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    They are amazing photographs though.
     

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