If science discover the existence of God, it could violate the free-will?

Discussion in 'Comparative Religion' started by entelecheia, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. entelecheia Registered Senior Member

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    hi
    I mean, if people knows scientific evidence exist of an Omniscient, Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omnibenevolent Being (a sort of cosmic computer) who assess every human act, then most people could do good deeds, merely for the afterlife reward.

    Like robots programmed to do good deeds all the time, it could be impossible to distinguish who really do good deeds by own interest from who doesnt. God couldnt punish people in Purgatory or Hell, only for 'feel/think' hate, egoism, lust. Purgatory and Hell (whatever it could mean) could disappear completely, which is absurd.

    Ergo, science only can prove the existence of God in a world of saints; never. :crazy:
     
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  3. entelecheia Registered Senior Member

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    False immaculates could re-born in afterlife (whatever it could mean:reincarnations, resurrections, etc), once and again, but their souls could never evolve, they could reach a heavenly afterlife, but being pure instinct and hate inside.
    For whom believes in only one resurrection, how can exist a Kingdom of Heaven (Perfect World) in which science & brain will not evolve any more? There will no exist evolving technology in the Kingdom of Heaven? How they could cope with asteroid menace?
     
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  5. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Wow... just wow.
     
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  8. entelecheia Registered Senior Member

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    Please forgive me, I know not what I do
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  9. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    You forget, if God is omniscient, then He knows when you are pretending just to get a reward.
     
  10. entelecheia Registered Senior Member

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    what means that?


    some scientists hope future tech will prove the eziztenze o' 4 OMNI God. But it involve a Purgatory Paradox, hundred of millions o' people could twist their purgatorial/hellial destinies. But only by own interessst!!men cant cheat God.:jawdrop:

    nobody find it interesting?
    my language o' origin is spanglisch
    :xctd:
     
  11. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    You mean religious people that also happen to do science?
     
  12. entelecheia Registered Senior Member

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    Some guys euphoric by thinking to live in the Kingdom o' Heaven (better than a Palace of Versailles) could control completely their bad thinks/feelings (too intrincate to discuss on the subconscious sins), but the most important; hundred of millions of people whose destiny is hell or purgatory could twist it easily by afterlife euphoria.

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  13. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Well then, that means the prospect of a reward in heaven is doing it's job perfectly!
     
  14. entelecheia Registered Senior Member

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    With all the respect, you disrespect. Science seek God, 'cause we, humans, find a sense of our meaningless lifes & protection to inmense fears thru faith in Omni Omni Omni Omni God.:xctd:
     
  15. entelecheia Registered Senior Member

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    what are you talking about Kelly Bundy?
     
  16. entelecheia Registered Senior Member

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    what the hell, anybody can dig out Kelly?she is ruining my thread, for gods sake!

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  17. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    No, science does not seek God. Nor is it based on faith. I could go into the subject of why Omniscient, Omnipresent, Omnipotent, and Omnibenevolent is a meaningless set of attributes.

    You are saying that people, reinforced by scientific proof, will fool themselves into being good. Which is the whole point of the concept of heaven, that it will influence you somehow to be good. All the Christian God seems to want is that we control our bad or evil feelings...

    Also, it's not Kelly Bundy, it's Australian hurdler Michelle Jenneke.
     
  18. entelecheia Registered Senior Member

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    Since Descartes, scientists tried to find theoric or experimental evidence of G.O.D (Great, Omniscient, and Dizzy, just kidding :xctd

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    . Natural Theologians dont rule out this possibility.


    Yes, but is implies cheat

    Sorry, maybe i will never ever understand it: ...Well then, that means the prospect of a reward in heaven is doing it's job perfectly!...
     
  19. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    If you don't want people to "cheat" (to be something other than what they would be naturally), then why create a Bible?
     
  20. entelecheia Registered Senior Member

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    Imagine Heaven-Hell-Purgatory is a business, if you offer everlasting heaven to everybody just in exchange of good deeds, purgatory and hell disappear inmediately.

    Large scale cheating. One person must grow emotionally, but this is a slow process.

    One person could control completely his bad feelings/thoughts, i dont understand how God could punish that guy
     
  21. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    On the one hand you are talking about good deeds, on the other you are talking about feelings. Of course doing good deeds while thinking evil inside is still worthy of punishment. But doing good while controlling one's feelings and thoughts is what God seems to want. Total control over evil thoughts can't be evil.
     
  22. entelecheia Registered Senior Member

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    If science proves Christian God exist (ergo, Heaven exist), every person in the world will try to do good deeds only.
    Do you TRULY think thieves, assassins, etc, will continue to do evils, knowing scientifically they will be tortured in Purgatory?

    The Purgatory and Hell will be empty (or will dissapear) 'cause God cant punish unfortunate person who 'thought', or 'felt' (non-psychopathic) evils. Pychopaths are likely to be souless, just machines...
     
  23. Ladicius Registered Senior Member

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    My my, the smarter we get the more God's abilities seem to evolve to keep his (it's) abilities and intellectual integrity in tact.
     

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