IF Nazi, Germany .....

Discussion in 'History' started by R1D2, Mar 22, 2014.

  1. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    If Nazi, Germany .......
    Let's start the thread with... Had the Nazi not been defeated, or lasted longer, history was different, just how would our world have changed?
     
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Who cares, they were defeated and that's that. How c an you try to figure out how things might be when they aren't happening.
     
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  5. Gremmie "Happiness is a warm gun" Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, have to agree with with Cosmic... What ifs don't mean much... What if my grandma had balls?, would I call her grandpa?. Don't take my response personally R1... It's just that your OP is irrelevant.
     
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  7. Sorcerer Put a Spell on you Registered Senior Member

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    I think I'll differ and say it could be interesting. There are lots of sites dedicated to that sort of thing. Maybe RD should find one of those.

    PS: I'd be speaking German....
     
  8. Gremmie "Happiness is a warm gun" Valued Senior Member

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    Sprechensie Deutsche, mein Herr?. Nein? Ach du lieber! Shit, that's right, they lost.
     
  9. Sorcerer Put a Spell on you Registered Senior Member

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    I actually studied German for 4 years at school, and somehow managed to pass an exam in it... No, I can't speak it!

    Kinda glad they lost. I worked for a German company once and wished I hadn't.
     
  10. Gremmie "Happiness is a warm gun" Valued Senior Member

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    I never studied it in school... I'm half German, Learned the language from my grands... My grandfather fought in the war... He told me he was glad they lost... He was a good, and wise man. He was in the SS... Can you imagine, he hoped they would lose?... But, he did. He taught me tolerance, and not to discriminate... His favorite saying was... Assholes come in all colors... Life is short, enjoy it.
     
  11. Sorcerer Put a Spell on you Registered Senior Member

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    He sounds like an excellent person. I suppose I have personal feelings about the war: my parents lived in London during the Blitz and a bomb landed next to their house.... they were ok, but if it had landed fifty feet closer I wouldn't be here. Not a nice feeling.
     
  12. Gremmie "Happiness is a warm gun" Valued Senior Member

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    I fully understand that... But, war is hell...I've seen combat myself. And ive seen things that insulted every thing I beleive in... But, wars are started by the corrupt few that have power... Usually over money or resources... Then they sit back and watch the carnage, in the comfort of their palacial estates or bunkers. In a perfect world it would be different... But, as we know, it isn't.
     
  13. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    There are a lot of alternative-history science-fiction stories with that premise.

    James Hogan's 'The Proteus Project' (written in the 1980's) begins with a US nuclear submarine returning from a cold war patrol in the present. But it quickly turns out that the adversary it faced wasn't the Soviet block, but Nazi Germany and fascist Japan astride all of Eurasia, Africa and South America. 'The Allies' were restricted to North America, with the boundary down in Panama or something. When Britain fell to the Germans in 1940-1, the King fled across the Atlantic to Canada and now resides in Ottawa.

    The hot war between the Allies and Axis, and continued Axis expansion, eventually ended when both sides developed nuclear weapons, and a 'mutually-assured-destruction' stand-off resulted. But with the Axis holding the entire world, apart from North America, their advantage in natural resources and industry made it clear that the Allies' days were numbered. Their eventual defeat was inevitable.

    So... the Americans developed time-travel, and hatched a plot to go back in time and give the secret of the atomic bomb to Albert Einstein and the other physicists, so that the Allies would have nukes first and would be able to nuke the Germans and Japanese.

    But... things get a lot more complicated fast, since the time travelers, back in 1940, can't re-establish contact with the present. They are cut off back there. And then it appears that there are other time travelers lurking around too, sent back from a variety of different futures. And the story eventually moves from simple time-travel towards a many-worlds multiverse idea. Einstein helps them figure it out. Meanwhile, they have to convince Roosevelt and Churchill, while fighting off Nazi time-travelers and making sense of mysterious visitors from far stranger futures.
     
  14. Arne Saknussemm trying to figure it all out Valued Senior Member

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    Hitler would still be alive. :bugeye:
     
  15. river

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    Hmm... The influence of Nazi Germany was kept alive by Paperclip

    Don't know what " paperclip " means

    Look it up
     
  16. Gremmie "Happiness is a warm gun" Valued Senior Member

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    And he'd be 125 years old next month...
     
  17. CHRIS.Q Registered Senior Member

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    If so then the northern hemisphere would be Nazi territory
     
  18. Arne Saknussemm trying to figure it all out Valued Senior Member

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    It's like the old joke: If George Washington were alive today, what would he be famous for?

    A: Being the oldest man alive!

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  19. Gremmie "Happiness is a warm gun" Valued Senior Member

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    I hear ya.. Just glad Hitler isn't around... There are many of his kind though... Scary.
     
  20. Arne Saknussemm trying to figure it all out Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, an irrelevant 'what if' thread clearly established for the sole purpose of attention grabbing from someone who craves attention regardless of what sort it is. Best we ignore this thread completely.
     
  21. Sorcerer Put a Spell on you Registered Senior Member

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    Which you didn't.
     
  22. Gremmie "Happiness is a warm gun" Valued Senior Member

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    :thumbsup: perfect...
     
  23. Arne Saknussemm trying to figure it all out Valued Senior Member

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    Post #4,#6,#8,#18: These messages are hidden because Sorcerer is on your ignore list.
     

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