If ghosts are real, what kind of matter makes up a ghost?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by joepistole, Jan 25, 2010.

  1. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Now days there are a lot of ghost hunter progams on TV. It seems like every few weeks an new gang of ghost hunters has hit the streets roaming around old homes and ships looking for ghosts and claiming to find proof of same.

    Thus the question, if ghosts are real what kind of matter would make a ghost. Remember ghosts are supposed to be able to go through doors, walls, etc. So I pose the question, what kind of matter could make a ghost and why?
     
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  3. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    Are they made of matter?
     
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  5. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    Ghosts utilize surrounding dust and smoke to make themselves visible. They can go through doors by letting dust drop on one side of the door and picking up on dust on the other side. Any luminensence comes from light scattering off this dust.

    You will never see a ghost in a clean room (ie in microporcessor manufacturing rooms) for this very reason. Because the use so little dust relative to their volume, they are partially see-through.
     
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  7. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    That makes sense.
     
  8. Bebelina kospla.com Valued Senior Member

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    Ectoplasm.
     
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  10. kmguru Staff Member

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    Dark Matter - Perhaps matter that exists in more than 3 dimensions.
     
  11. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    ghosts arent real, the fact is that there are two kinds of particles in my experiance.

    Ones based off of neutrons. atoms, electrons, protons, molecules and all that good stuff.

    And ones from the same family as photons and the like.

    There is a quantum physics law that states no two neutrons (or anything derived from a neutron) can exist in the same spot in space at the same time, basically no two things can occupy the same spot on the quantum scale.

    Photons and it's family are not controlled by this law, that is why they can flow through certain objects like air and glass because a neutron and a photon can occupy the same spot in space at the same time.

    The problem is that the only way for a ghost to pass through walls so effortlessly is for it to belong to the photon family (not the official name), and is actually even less restricted than most if not all members of said family. But what goes around comes around, if they are unhindered by their surroundings, than they cannot exert a force on anything.

    So really, if a ghost can pass through matter without hindrence, and cant exert a force, since it has nothing it can exert a force upon, it couldn't even move or change direction, depends on what velocity it had when it became a ghost.

    So really it would be consciouss of nothing, feel nothing, and could not act upon anything.
     
  12. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I like the dust arguement. Dark matter, I don't know that much about. I don't know if anyone knows that much about dark matter. Interesting idea.

    But if they were made of atoms, they could not go through solid objects. If they were made of neutrinos or other weakly interacting particles, they could go through solid objects but we would not be able to see them and they would not be able to move objects.

    The other thing to consider is that maybe, assuming they are real, is that they directly interact with our brain perhaps electro magneticly inducing thoughts and images in our brains...just a thought.
     
  13. John99 Banned Banned

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    Goats arent real?

    No, goats are real and ghosts are fake. Problem soved and wuestion has been answered. Same for black holes, i have concluded they do not, in fact, exist.
     
  14. Bebelina kospla.com Valued Senior Member

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    Their existance is being transmitted on another frequency and sometimes they blend with "ours". I'm pretty sure they have been seen in clinical environments too, not depending on dust exactly. And yes, they are made of same stuff as everything else, on the most basic level. But some goats are not real.
     
  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Fortunately science doesn't have to rely on your conclusions, it uses things like observation.
     
  16. gdudea sciforums user Registered Senior Member

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    Goats?
     
  17. gdudea sciforums user Registered Senior Member

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    Black holes do exist, there made of pure darkness. Pure black. Light get's sucked in, making it pure place, but ratiation is the only thing that can excape. I think that it is made of radiation compacted together more than ever, making the atom's being compacted again and again, then explosions occure to make the black hole dissipere, releasing the radiation. I know that is unlikley, but light rays even get sucked in there, non atoms are getting sucked in the black hole into the time/space reality, where it even exists. It is very unlikley, but we don't know what exactly black holes are made of.
     
  18. Try Again No, I'm not a mod. Registered Senior Member

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    Why don't ghosts fall through floors?
     
  19. FreshHat Registered Senior Member

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    I always thought it was odd that ghosts are seen wearing clothes of the era in which they were living human beings.

    How do the ghost hunters explain how a coat, dress, hat, pair of pants, shoes, jewellery, etc. "cross over" to the other side with the deceased?
     
  20. draqon Banned Banned

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    photons obviously, since they are visible. Ghosts seem to materialize only partially and are see-through. Their quantum particles do not interact with mass matter, but photons they give off. Furthermore ghosts are strongly associated with strong magnetic field, therefore it is reasonable to assume that these quantum particles are stabilized by magnetic field...and not just any magnetic field, there have to be many atmospheric characteristics present as well.

    From this I would assume that ghosts are plasma with the closest recorded scientific relation as atmospheric plasma.
     
  21. kmguru Staff Member

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    I just used the word "Dark" matter instead of Ghost Matter. But if we actually live in 11 dimension universe, why can not be matter that exist in 4 dimension that we just have a tough time sensing it? If that multi dimension is not true then we have to look for other explanations which people have been trying for many years.

    Another idea is like jelly fish with transparent protein structure, is it possible to have a loosely binding molecular structure where molecules are separated by a distance held by the electrical charge and magnetic attraction. A ghost might weigh one nanogram but occupy several cubic feet? Again just a thought...
     
  22. draqon Banned Banned

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    dark matter cannot exist amongst regular matter without annihilation. The later idea that this is a multidimensional effect is more plausible.
     
  23. draqon Banned Banned

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    they would not just had to be made of weakly interacting quantum particles, they would have a magnetic field, and also give off photons during their reaction with some other particles.
     

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