Ideological Balance in WE&P

Discussion in 'SF Open Government' started by Gustav, Aug 18, 2010.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Gustav Banned Banned

    Messages:
    12,575
    i refer to the current moderation of course
    we have the left wing represented by one individual, hype; while the right wing has two...string and mad.

    i find this unacceptable in a forum as contentious as we&p is.
    either appoint another mod to complement hype or remove one of the other two
     
  2. Guest Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  3. superstring01 Moderator

    Messages:
    12,110
    This need is supported by?

    ~String

    Note: not that I wouldn't appreciate another mod. I, in particular, generally avoid the quota system, but I'd be more concerned with the promotion of another lady over one of any particular ideology.
     
  4. Guest Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  5. Bells Staff Member

    Messages:
    22,775
    Shouldn't the appointment of a moderator be based off their ability to moderate fairly and openly instead of on sex and/or political ideology?
     
  6. Guest Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  7. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    53,181
    Given the left wing leaning of this site, I think having the one subforum leaning right is only fair, in order to avoid the accusation that the moderation of political discussion on sciforums is unfair.
     
  8. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

    Messages:
    35,564
    Well, in theory, sure ....

    In theory, yes, but we threw that out, as far as WE&P are concerned, years ago. All three current moderators are, to varying degrees, products of the political quota system we followed in order to present the appearance of political balance.

    This was, originally, a concession to dissatisfied members who happened to be of conservative political inclinations.
     
  9. superstring01 Moderator

    Messages:
    12,110
    It hardly leans "right" anyway.

    In terms of measurement of the mean political leaning of people--in general--I'm actually more left of center on social issues and slightly right of center on economic issues.

    Hype is decidedly left. Mad is obviously right.

    It's pretty balanced.

    If we judge the political location of a moderator, who do we use as a goal post? Gustav, Ice and Tiassa? Most people are to the right of them. Buffalo, Mad and Geoff? Most people are to the left of them.

    I'm okay with another moderator, but only in the sense that we should have another moderator to handle the workload and NOT to create some balance within the force.

    ~String
     
  10. Hercules Rockefeller Beatings will continue until morale improves. Moderator

    Messages:
    2,729

    Wow, that’s interesting and heartening to hear.

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

    But given Americans’ rabid deranged unfounded wacky fear of anything that even remotely resembles socialism, it seems to me that an American’s idea of being “left-of-centre” is actually still quite right-leaning compared to the rest of the world.
     
  11. superstring01 Moderator

    Messages:
    12,110
    The whole world? Every nation?

    And your ad hom usage of the term "rabid deranged unfounded" is itself prejudicial.

    If you read what I wrote with a little more care, you'd see that I state that mys social views are left of center and my economic views are right of center. Socialism is significantly more "economic" than social, so it would fall into the obvious "right of center" category that I previously stated.

    Where, pray tell, do you think my social viewpoints fall? You know: religion, gay marriage, abortion, militarism, female rights, etc? Left or right of the world's average view on these issues?

    ~String
     
  12. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    22,087
    Actually, I don't believe there's anyone one on the forum to the left of me. I'm just very forgiving of right-winger's politics. We could narrow it down to specific areas, of course.
     
  13. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,754
    Damn you!!
    I was just looking for a post of yours to quote to make that very point. And I'd just found it, too!
    Grrr.
     
  14. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    22,087

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

    Which one was it?

    I'm a bit more laid back, I guess. But if you flip open your copy of the Little Red Book to about any page, you'll find me agreeing. Not so much into bayonetting, of course. The dialectic dictates that society will become socialist eventually anyway, and the 20th century supports this.
     
  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,754
    http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2600614&postcount=383

    Or even:
    In response to (Who here is a socialist?"
    http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2565747&postcount=9
    A statement you reiterated a couple of posts later...

    GeoffP is the Red menace.

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

     
  16. Hercules Rockefeller Beatings will continue until morale improves. Moderator

    Messages:
    2,729
    No, on average. I’ve lived in a few countries, the USA being one of them. I’ve never encountered an unfounded resistance/fear/resentment of socialist principles (even vague ones) like I have in the USA.


    Not necessarily. I would say that issues like welfare, medicine and healthcare, maternity entitlements, insurance etc. could be said to be equally social and economic issues. But that’s merely my opinion.


    It really wasn’t my intension to insult you or start an argument, so if I’ve done so I apologise. I was simply relating my experience of Americans. I typically found American society to be a somewhat conservative and right-leaning on both social and economic areas compared to the other countries with which I have experience (viz. Commonwealth countries). That’s all. If my wording has riled you and/or I’ve misjudged you to your annoyance, then again I apologise.
     
  17. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    22,087
    I'm the unmenacing Red Menace.

    The Red Suggestion.

    I would even go so far as to say the Passionate Red Suggestion, but that sounds sticky, which we can't have.

    Although, conversely, I'm also fairly antidisestablishmentarian. I realize that's kind of a conflict in a revolutionary. I'm conflicted. Must be the English thing. I know what kind of dictator I would be, but just don't trust these little neo-Marxist punks.
     
  18. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

    Messages:
    35,564
    Marx on Marxism, or something like that

    One of the problems of neo-Marxism is that it doesn't attend Marx carefully enough. As much as I adore the old, philosophical fool, I must always bear in mind one of his most important lessons. Sometime in his later years, he reportedly explained, "One thing I know for certain is that I am no Marxist."

    Point taken, Karl.
     
  19. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

    Messages:
    31,550
    Add at least one admin (me) who's a lefty...
     
  20. superstring01 Moderator

    Messages:
    12,110
    Which supports my assertion that there is no reason to promote someone to mod based upon ideological balance.

    Now, if we have another one added because of other reasons, then perhaps it's worth considering.

    ~String
     
  21. Bells Staff Member

    Messages:
    22,775
    The only reason another moderator should be added is because you all need a 4th to help with managing those two subforums. No one should be appointed because of their political leanings, sex, religion, sexuality, etc.

    As the only female moderator, I find it somewhat insulting that I may only be there because of my sex.
     
  22. superstring01 Moderator

    Messages:
    12,110
    No. You're here because you have a nice rack.

    ~String
     
  23. superstring01 Moderator

    Messages:
    12,110
    Oh. But really. Presumably you're here because of the same reason why the rest of us are here: you're qualified.

    That said, there's no reason to avoid having a qualified female mod if the opportunity arises.

    ~String
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page