Identity loss and suicide rates in Maoris

Have you ever been to New Zealand Sam?

I would really be quite interested to know how you became such expert on the Maori situation, that you can accuse a Maori of not understanding "their situation"?

 

Well, apparently I have a different understanding of the situation to you. At a time when Indian families were giving away their children (or eating them) because the British free trade model had failed to anticipate the effects of a then un-known climactic event (unknown at least to the british), some of them found the three and five year contracts and the gaurantees of food, and water in exhcange for labour in the sugar cane fields, to the point where some of them/many of them resigned the contracts and commited to another round when they saw the state that India was in.

Which would be fine and dandy if that was all you were doing.

Bullshit.
I've explained to you how many times that I quite simply don't identify with my maori ancestry any more than I identify with any other part of my ancestry.

You seem to think that, because I have maori heritage, that I should throw myself head first into maori culture, embrace it completely, and cast aside my european heritage.

Get stuffed.

More bullshit, and I suspect that if I aske dyou to prove it, you'd just sidestep the issue, and make the same statement again, as you've done several times now in regards to my maori ancestry.

Tell me, Are you suggesting that Canabilism and Geoncide are minor sins now?

Does that mean that the Genocide of Palestinians by Israelies now constitutes a minor crime that people should just pretend isn't happening?

Still more bullshit. You're assessing the statusquo with tools that are over one hundred years out of date, and ignoring the fact that the opposite has been happening for over thirty years.

Uninformed bullshit.
This is not how I feel.
The simple truth is that I fully support the resurgence of Maori culture over the last thing. I think in many respects it, and the treaty settlements are some of the best things to happen in New Zealands history.

It's the likes or Parekura Horomia, or, to some extent, Hone Harawia who appear to peddle a divisive, apartheid approach that I don't appreciate. But, as I understand it, they represent a minority of Maori.

Funny you should say that, because it seems to me that this:

Is much the sam ething that I've been trying to emphasize - greater education, and moving forward together.

Of what relevance is this question precisely?

 

Yes.
As I have previously stated there are a number of aspects of language and habit/custom within my family that I can directly identify as being part of Maori culture.

And as for my alleged heritage. Are you accusing me of being a liar now?

 

You're being disingenious here S.A.M,

First, you're cherrypicking and only aknowledging part of what I said.
Second, you know full well that Europe doesn't recieve the same signal from El nino/La nina climatic events that India does.

 

Are you done editing you're post yet?

Or do you want to change it again?

 

Do you think that this is all there is to being Maori?
Following a religion (surprise surprise, I don't follow any religion).
Celebrating festivals? (I would have supported Matariki becoming a national holiday).
And as for language, seriously. What business is any of this of yours?
And as I have stated for the umpteenth time now, there are aspects of language in my family that I can identify as being maori.

Or do you think that Tauiwi is a European word?

Fortunately for everybody.

This isn't a judgement call you get to make.
This comment is based solely on your own misperceptions and misrepresentations of what I've said.

This post of yours, sadly, represents little more than trolling.

 

And I am still waiting on how you have suddenly become such an expert on Maoris and what it takes to be a Maori when you have never been to the country.

I have to ask, what gives you the right to question someone else's heritage? What gives you the right to judge someone based on their heritage?

You accuse Trippy of not being a true Maori, when you have probably never even seen a Maori in your life, you have never been to the country and know nothing about Maori culture or customs, let alone be in a position to accuse someone who is a Maori of not being Maori enough.

Where do you get off making such an accusation? What kind of a racist are you?

 

Yes, that is generally what happens when there is a dichotomy in the distribution of wealth under a free market model.

Right. And I'm sure that 'official' records were kept that are freely available online.

 

So you are an Indian because you speak the language and hang out with Indians?

Is that all it takes?

 

If that were true then there would have been no Gorta Mor now would there.

Have I or have I not explicitly stated that the british throoughly cocked during that elnino event?

Do you want me to go back and quote it?

Dear god, get a grip woman.

What point are you trying to make here? That the Europeans managed to mismanage their response to a climactic event they had never before encountered, and as a result, lots of poor people died?

Do you have any idea how many people died in floods and famine in China at the same time without British interference? Do you genuinely believe that things would have been any better without the British in India?

You making generalized claims again.
No surprise there.
You ignoring facts (i've backed up every other claim I've ever made in discussion with you) in pursuit of your grudge again.
No surprise there.