Ideal society

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by birch, Nov 16, 2016.

  1. river

    Anti-Gravity technology .

    society would look like , the Earth cultures , All expressed in the Temple of Humanity , built in every country , on Earth .

    Each Temple would have the full history of every culture from recorded time and before , ancient knowledge .

    therefore each and every culture respects the other .
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  3. danshawen Valued Senior Member

    Easily accomplished with an automated self-serve euthanasia and vital organ harvesting facility. I'll bet the lines for service would not be long there either. Perhaps they could combine it with a Soylent Green flavored yogurt shop to reduce waste and environmental impact as well. Who really needs society anyway? Process them through gambling casinos to strip out any valuables and lower their resistance to the idea first. It's a very green and climate friendly concept. Shouldn't be much harder to sell than Trump was.
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  5. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

    I imagine the worst thing is feeling alone when one is not alone.
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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

    I have been alone and overcome with a realisation that I could not get away from people and remain alone for very long because someone would ring or call by when I just wanted a little quiet time.
    And they only seek you out to tell you their problems as if I need to know... I find that feeling overwhelming when it happens.
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  8. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

    Purchase several copies of a book on body language. Give it to them as a gift, directing them to the chapter that explains the body language of someone who would like to go away. Smile sincerely, then remain silent.

    Or, you could use the Billy Connolly approach he adopts for Jehovah's witnesses. Invite them in. Sit them down. Excuse yourself for the moment, then go down the pub for an hour or two. As Billy says, "They are honest people. They won't cause any harm. After a while they give up and leave." I'm sure your friends are honest too.
  9. Seattle Valued Senior Member

    My ideal society would match the economy with one's earning ability at the present time. This would always be changing.

    Ideally it would be easy to opt in to the working economy and just as easy to opt out. If your savings is getting low you opt into the workforce and replenish your saving. Your fixed expenses are higher at this time. You pay more in taxes, insurance, and utilities.

    When your savings is adequate you can chose to opt out of the workforce (your choice) and reduce your expenditures (taxes, insurance and utilities would all go down) and you now have your time alone, or time to think, do more fulfilling things than perhaps your work entailed, etc.

    When you have had enough opt out time you can opt in to the work force again. This goes on for your entire life. Maybe you opt out to spend time with kids, to travel or to just live a more spartan, simple life.

    You opt back in when your need to replenish saving or just when you want to be more productive in a working environment. There is no need for any phase of your life to be unchanging. No need to work for 40 years straight and then to never work for 20 years and then you die.

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    The current system doesn't easily allow this. It's not easy to move into and out of the work environment. When you aren't working it's not easy to remain outside of the work environment, in part, because fixed expenses soon require you to general more money due to taxes, insurance, utilities, etc. Shelter and food isn't the prohibit part. It's the medical insurance, property taxes, utilities that a monopoly and therefore out of your control.

    My ideal society would still keep society in the picture. Everyone doesn't have to be doing the same thing at the same time. You have as much or as little "society" as you want. You can live in the city and still have your space or live in the country if you so desire. When you don't have money as the driving force you are free to do more of what you feel like doing at that point in time.
  10. psikeyhackr Live Long and Suffer Valued Senior Member

    That is the curious thing I find about Vulcan culture in Star Trek. LOL

    It is the "Concept" of a rational culture. Of course Vulcans are not really portrayed that way. They are distorted to make good stories for Star Trek, but could there be such a thing?

    I have asked people what they thought of making accounting mandatory in our schools. A Swedish man claiming to be a Socialist and a high school teacher said he objected to the idea on the grounds that the math would make Capitalism seem rational to the students. A man who claimed to be an accountant said he did not object to the idea, but he did not want it done for 6 years, after he retired. So it appears that we have lots of irrationality based on biases and self interest. Then children must grow up trying to sort through the silly rationalizations they get for the weird crap going on around them. Make the world safe for Democracy. Kill Vietnamese to save them from Communism.

    Bertrand Russell would not be surprised.

    So how do we use the Internet to promote rationality? A system for "The Awakening"?

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  11. river

    The search for truth .

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