"I think anything that is an American plan is bound to fail"

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  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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  3. imaplanck. Banned Banned

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    Why for such a gentle person are you so obsessed with war?

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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Gentle person? You must have me confused with some other Islamofascist.

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  8. crazy151drinker Registered Senior Member

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    Im surprised youre allowed to use a computer.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I'm glad you can be objective about what the Secretary of State said.

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  10. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Since you're Indian, Sam, why don't you worry about cleaning up your own messes before concerning yourself with the mess of others?

    Have you ever heard "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."??

    Baron Max

    CONFLICTS IN INDIA:

    Caste violence continued to divide the impoverished state of Bihar. There, the Ranvir Sena, a banned private militia of upper-caste landlords that had been operating with impunity since 1994, waged war on various Maoist guerrilla factions, such as the People's War Group (PWG). These guerrilla groups advocated higher wages and more equitable land distribution for lower-caste laborers. The cycle of retaliatory attacks claimed many civilian lives.

    On April 25, upper-caste Rajputs shot and killed four Dalits and seriously injured three in Rohtas district, Bihar. Rajputs subsequently burned down the entire Dalit hamlet, leaving all twenty-five families homeless. The attack was reportedly in retaliation for the killing of two Rajputs a few days earlier by members of the outlawed PWG. On June 16, in Miapur village in Bihar's Aurangabad district, the Ranvir Sena slaughtered thirty-four lower-caste men, women, and children. Survivors reported that police left the scene when the attacking mob entered the village. The massacre was reportedly to avenge the killings by Maoist guerrillas of twelve upper-caste Bhumihars the week before, and thirty-four Bhumihars in March 1999. Some Ranvir Sena members were arrested in the weeks that followed, but there was no precedent for successful prosecutions in such cases.

    Police blamed the July 13 killings of four upper-caste Hindus in Garwah district on the PWG. On September 13 the Maoist Communist Centre, another armed group, slit nine people's throats in Ranchi district. The victims included Muslims and tribespeople.

    Bihar was not the only state affected by caste violence. On March 12, seven members of a Dalit family were burned alive in their homes by an upper-caste mob in Kolar district, Karnataka state. The attack was preceded by the stabbing of an upper-caste man in a nearby village. Although police were aware of escalating tensions in the area, they failed to take preventive action.

    Attacks against Christians, which have increased significantly since the BJP came to power in March 1998, continued. By mid-year over thirty-five anti-Christian attacks had been reported throughout the country, with the states of Gujarat and Uttar Pradesh-both BJP-led-particularly hard hit.

    Activists belonging to militant Hindu extremist groups such as the Bajrang Dal and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (World Hindu Council, VHP) were often blamed for the violence. Both groups are members of the sangh parivar, an umbrella Hindu organization that boasts the ruling BJP as its political wing. These Hindu groups blamed the violence on popular anger over Christian efforts to convert Hindus. While government officials at the state and central level condemned the attacks, they did little to prosecute those responsible.


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  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Irrelevant. Off-topic. Baiting. Trolling. Flaming.

    Back on topic:

    So should the US just admit it scr*wed up in Iraq and ask Iran, Syria, The Arab countries and/or the UN for help?
     
  12. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    There is a difference between a 50 year blood feud and the tensions in Iraq.
     
  13. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Fine, I'll ask the question:

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  14. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    No.

    The only thing that the US has screwed up in Iraq and the mid-East is the normal, everyday routine of the mid-East.

    If "Iran, Syria, The Arab countries and/or the UN" were anywhere near as capable as the US in correcting the status quo the question wouldn't need to be begged.

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  15. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    The US is a political enzyme.

    Both sets of reactants have to want to get along without a moderating intermediary to do the hard work for them.
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    An enzyme is a catalyst. It does not take part in the reaction.

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  17. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    By that analogy, we are an irritant.
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    An allergen?

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  19. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    There ya go. We provoke a response from the immune system, even if we are harmless.
     

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