Nelson: *Shrugs* Probably lot's of Christians whose lives suck. The only really unhappy athiests I know are stuck in a godforsaken hellhole in Flori-DUH. Even they are not on the verge of suicide. Takes a bit more to get rid of us...try again. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Yep, I would stop loving if, say, the beloved were to commit some horrible crime. Other than that, you have no idea what I am talking about. Jan: His use of the term is, but the message stays the same, no? Say, answer a question if you please: What is the name of the dwarf under Shiva Nataranja's feet? I can't find it in my books or on Google....alls I get is that it is a personification of ignorence. Thanks.