I can see minute internal molecules/particles in air with my NAKED EYES. what I do?

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  1. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    I see them too,yet I don't think origin will claim I'm an idiot.

    The reason being I don't disregard the evidence presented just to feel special.
     
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  3. sunshaker Registered Member

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    So what evidence? So you think you are seeing floaters or dust or have an eye defect?
    There is nothing special about seeing them

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    you just see them or you don't.

    So what do you think you are now seeing? Has origin made you believe you have an eye defect?
     
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  5. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    I have an eye defect.
     
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  7. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Neutrinos pass through the entire planet without interaction at all. They certainly don't interact with the rods and cones in your eyes. Low energy cosmic rays do interact with the eye, producing blips of light. This has been reported by astronauts but they don't generally have enough energy to penetrate the atmosphere.
     
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  8. sunshaker Registered Member

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    What the astronauts see are within the eye, it is the damage caused by cosmic radiation, the damage was realized when they looked closely at the visors of the astronauts under magnification and seen the micro damage.
    I am also not saying that the neutrinos interact with our cones in our eyes. But may interact with nucleons of the air molecules, or just the oscillating between tau/muon.
    The humans eyes are sensitive to light and colour even though we may not see the form of these particles.
     
  9. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Neutrinos hardly interact with anything, and it's the rods and cones in the eye that detect photons and do the seeing.
     
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  10. Qoartox Registered Member

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    Hi, i found this thread/forum today and finally see someone else trying to figure out what it is they see.... i've searched it here through, but everyone was talking about seeing the stuff(or whatever it is) while staring at sky or something like that, but does it someone here see it....let's say everywhere? I Can see this "particals" since i was small kid, and i've seen it everywhere and everytime, like i could see the air or whatever, sometimes it's even stronger and i can see it flow like waves over the ground or around the various objects.
    I'm 100% sure it's not floaters, i can see floater sometimes too, but those are seen "on/in the eye" the particals i see are not in the same distance like floaters, they are everywhere like it was some kind of matter in the space....and sometimes when it's strong enough i can even focus my vision on it the same way i focus my vision on any object!
    First i thought it has to do something with bad eyes, but my eyes can actually see very good, focus on near object well and i see on far distances pretty well too, after some thinking and eye tests i'm sure it's not an eye problem.
    When i got older and tried some psychedelics in search for answers about counsciousness and what i see, it got even stronger like i could see single particals of matter/objects..after the trip it got to "normal" way i see it again.
    So right now i more and more sure it's a gift after so many years of thinking i have bad vision or that i'm just mad..... but who knows what it actually is....

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  11. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    First welcome to the forum. Secondly you do not have a gift, the only particles you can see are maybe dust particles or just visual effects that are really nothing. The smallest particles that you can see are about 100 microns in diameter which is about 1,000,000 times larger than an atom. For context that is like the size difference between an SUV and the moon.
     
  12. Qoartox Registered Member

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    Hm hm,...ok, is that based on a knowledge about what human eyes can normally see? Because if it is, than i'm 100% sure it's not it, because it's not something everybody sees, it's something that just some people see for whatever reason it is.(Of course it could be just eye abnormality)
    Unfortunately there are some things science just can't see and measure yet, so it could be possibly anything, even some smaller particals than we actually think we could even see. Because there are some things I'm really sure about and that it's not floaters and not even dust particals, it's smaller than that.... i've never had any kind of hallucinations so i know i see what i see...and yes, i'm not an idiot who've never seen a dust..

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  13. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    That is known as delusion.
    It is incredibly easy to test that. Take a drop of pond water and look at. Can you see the paramecium and the other single cell animals in the water? If you are lucky you may be able to see some species against a dark background. Take that drop of water and check it out on a microscope to prove to yourself that there really are lots of single cell animals you could not see. Don't forget those animals are about 1,000,000 times larger than an atom. Still think you can see atoms?
    You can get all kinds of visual effects that I would not classify as hallucinations. But the bottom line is you are deluding yourself. Try that little experiment I proposed and see what the limit of your vision is. It is fun to think that you are special and have super vision, but in the long run living in the real world is the best option.

    PS. If, as you say, you have never had a hallucination you should get a refund on the psychedelics that you took!
     
  14. Qoartox Registered Member

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    Well, as first i'm sorry you got obviously confused by my terms....i've never said and never meant i could see single atoms,...i used a word "particals" as seeing something smaller than everyday objects, but didn't mean it as atoms.
    Also that i didn't see any hallucinations a mean i've never seen something that wouldn't actually be in front of me as a real object....and other thing is that psychedelics don't necesserily do this kind of hallucinogenic effect,.

    Anyways, back to the point, delusioning my self is one of the things i'm extremely careful about and i always think things out a lot before conclusions.
    What i found after some research that the condition we're talking here about is known as "Visual snow" and it's connected to kinda lot of other stuff, for example as seeing auras and lot of others...

    So i would like to end it right here, because I'm like 99% sure you're not the kind of persone who would "believe" in such a stuff and i'm aware of that todays science is still talking about this phenomenons as disorders and something that needs to be fixed or healed. I've got this particular condition since i was born and i'm pretty healthy man, so after studying the causes i can cut out any kind of desease to be causing this to me. At least i know what it officially is, even when i know science can't explain it well right now....and thanks to quantum mechanics supporting a lot of non-physical phenomenons it's more probable it's actually some kind of aura than just a disorder.
    So thanks to this forum it made me research it bit more than ever before and i got the answers i needed!

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  15. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    OK
    The good psychedelics do.
    The easiest person to fool is yourself. The scientific method and peer review is specifically designed to try and prevent that since it is so easy to have happen.
    I assume you are talking about real auras (visual disturbances associated with migraines and seizures) as opposed to the 'new age' paranormal stuff.
    You are basically correct I don't 'believe' in stuff unless there is evidence to back up the claim.
    You can have all kinds of visual effects, as I said before, without being sick. Many times I thought I seeing a satellite and realized it was actually a star that was not moving. It was just a visual trick.
    Quantum mechanics does not support non-physical phenomena! Where did you get that idea? If that was true it would not be much of a physics theory.
    That's good, glad to hear that.
     
  16. Qoartox Registered Member

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    Sorry, probably again just my bad science terms..

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    By non-physical i've meant existance of souls, reincarnations, thoughts having influence on matter and many more of other stuff... quantum mechanics already supports existence of some of these things through superpositions, quantum entanglement and double slit experiment, that's what i meant. So ofcourse, if those things exist and can be measured by whatever kind of physics is it gonna be, it's still physical, even though we perceive it as non physical.
     
  17. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Pseudoscience crank sites like to use QM and other physics that they do not understand to say that these concepts support their supernatural fantasies. Let me assure you that QM in no way what-so-ever implies that souls, reincarnation, ESP, bigfoot or fairies are real. Not even close....
     
  18. JohnFibonacci Registered Member

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    I too can see these particles. What I'm seeing are not 'floaters' which are transparent-like with shadow. They are not 'red blood cells' as what I am seeing move just like quanta particles. They are not the dots I get when I get a rush of blood to my brain.That would be the red blood cells. Against a pure blue sky, I can see trillions of small particles, almost as if it is 'bits' of a HD television. In the distortion of these 'bits', they move around like white noise, but very subtly. I also see small particle like actions of those dots that react, almost, off of each other. I can see the difference in blood cells as they move much slower and are much larger when I get a head rush, than the two sub types of particles I can see.Blood cells also have a larger, transparent like body and come in smaller numbers,than the particles I am talking about. the particles I see act exactly like particles bouncing off of atoms. I believe the distortion of points I see in the sky amongst everything are the hydrogen or oxygen molecules in my eye, warping the clarity of light. I believe the small bouncing particles I see are definitely reactions from atoms.

    "There are three classes of people. Those who see, those who are shown but do not see, and those who do not see." -Leonardo DaVinci
     
  19. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    What quanta particles are you talking about? How do you know how quanta particles move?
    Really? The only particles of any number that appear to 'bounce' off of atoms are electrons. There is no instrument that is known to man that can detect any size or diameter of an electron and yet you think you can see them. Do you see how ridiculous that claim is? Your are simply seeing visual effects and distortions that everyone sees (and most people ignore) there is nothing special in what you are seeing - it is nothing.

    As I said earlier in the thread:
    Take a drop of pond water and look at. Can you see the paramecium and the other single cell animals in the water? Take that drop of water and check it out on a microscope to prove to yourself that there really are lots of single cell animals you could not see. Don't forget those animals are about 1,000,000 times larger than an atom.

    "There are 2 kinds of people. Those that accept reason and evidence and those that delude themselves into denying reason and evidence." - Me
     
  20. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Was gonna fix your motto, origin, but you ninja'd me.
     
  21. Secular Sanity Registered Senior Member

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    That sounds like what Raithere referred to earlier as the Blue Field Entropic Phenomena.

     
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  22. Waiter_2001 Registered Senior Member

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    Stewie says, "Oh squiggly line, in my eye, why do you drift away when I try to look at you directly? Oh squiggly line, in my eye."
     
  23. JimDan0 Registered Member

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    I can visualize the same thing that the OP has described. My vision is perfect according to my last eye test. I can visualize it here even looking at the blank white spaces on the computer screen. Viewing the screen at about 3 feet away. If I am sitting too close to the screen is becomes difficult to visualize. Sitting here, relaxing and with zero eye movement what's so ever. It appears to be energy of some sort zipping through the air. It is definitely most noticeable when looking at clear blue sky. Not into the sun. I can only see it when I am concentrating and my eyes are not moving at all. This is different from the jelly you can see moving on your eye if you move your eyes from left to right to left. Two different visualizations.
     

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