I can see minute internal molecules/particles in air with my NAKED EYES. what I do?

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  1. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    You can't test for them because the defects can be millimeters and smaller in size, and everyone has them, look it up,
     
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  3. Five Bs Registered Member

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    Vkothii and Acitnoids hit the nail on the head. High blood pressure may be a cause. Standing up quickly from a recumbent position can also give this effect; as well as pulling several Gs in the case of a fighter pilot. It is your blood moving through your twisty capillaries. If you observe the effect for a while you will see them pulse slightly with your heart beat.
     
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  5. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    No offense, but what is being described by the OP is sitting down and relaxing.

    Not standing up or pulling high G;s if you know what I mean.
     
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  7. goodbye Registered Member

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    me too

    Hello. Yes I have the same thing. Next time it happens to you notice the rhythm that these "molecules" are moving to, almost pulsating.. right? Now feel your pulse and you will see a precise correlation. From this I'm pretty certain I'm seeing blood cells. Hope this helps.
     
  8. whynot Registered Senior Member

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    same here! they are like particles not the white dusty things that float in the air, but bounce around like the dust, sometimes with a tracer tail behind them. very similiar to when you stand up to fast, and you get those white flashing tracers moving all around in your vision. but yeah, they move faster than dust particles. bounce around like dust, but have trailers behind them. so i know what your talking about. i thought might have a pinched nerve in my neck from being rotated around backwards from a job injury.
     
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  9. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    Mine look like smilies! J/k

    No actually I see dots, and fibres. When I was a child I could change their colour to whatever colour I wanted, and then turn them into kaleidoscope images. I wish I could still do that now, it helped me to go to sleep.
     
  10. whynot Registered Senior Member

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    Sometimes after turning off the light at night, I will see round balls of color from the light bulb possibly, floating in front of me. Sometimes it will multiply or dance toward me in colors of blue, red, and green. I wonder what causes that on the retina?

    During the day I've on rare occasions had flashes like someone taking pictures. One time had what look like lightening come through the roof and light outlet. But this happen around the time my bunny rabbit at the time chewed through a chord nearby the stove and left a pee puddle for me to step in. I went to plug in the cord at the base not knowing wires were exposed and got electricuted, until something pushed me down to the floor. still burnt my fingers, killed my joints, and left red dots all around my heart and over my body next to veins little red dots. evil bunny. he was given away after that.
     
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  11. madanthonywayne Morning in America Staff Member

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    What you're seeing is blue field entoptic phenomenon or Scheerer's phenomenon.
     
  12. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Do the little balls you see have numbers on them?
     
  13. alateos Registered Member

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    Hi. I just joined this forum to tell you that I experience the same thing. When I told my parents about it they laughed. Whatever they are, they have no color and move at ridiculously high speeds. I can tell you a trick to see them move in a desired direction.

    -Alateos
     
  14. Trooper Secular Sanity Valued Senior Member

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    If you can make yours move in a desired direction then they're probably just floaters. If you're nearsighted you'll notice them more.

    "Thus, they generally follow the rapid motions of the eye, while drifting slowly within the fluid. When they are first noticed, the natural reaction is to attempt to look directly at them. However, attempting to shift one's gaze toward them can be difficult since floaters follow the motion of the eye, remaining to the side of the direction of gaze."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floater#Description
     
  15. river Valued Senior Member

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    can you understand it

    otherwise its not much help really
     
  16. alateos Registered Member

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  17. Summerj27 Registered Member

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    I to see particles/molecules

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    I too can see dots that r consistly moving especially when i am staring into the sunlight. Also i can make my eyes blurry and at night when i look at the city lights and make my eyes blurry they look like fireworks i can control my eyes when i make it blurry.
     
  18. Summerj27 Registered Member

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    Hi i can do the same thing. I forgot to mention that when i look at the the stars and make my eyes go blurry it looks like fireworks. Can anyone do this? if yes then do you know why?
     
  19. RichW9090 Evolutionist Registered Senior Member

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    I often can see such things. But there is nothing unusual about it. The tiny blood vessles which form on the surface of my retinas often leak minute amounts of blood into the vitreous humor. What I am seeing is individual red blood cells which are floating in the clear fluid of the eye. Once I had a larger vessle break, and my eye had so much blood in it that I was unable to see out of that eye - All I could see was a red/brown cloud.

    The operation for this is interesting. They take the fluid out of your eye, filter it, and put it back in.

    Rich
     
  20. river Valued Senior Member

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    if this is actually happening

    then give us the details , visually
     
  21. Amag Registered Member

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    I have seen something similar to this, and can still if I focus, although the focus is on not focusing. I'm reluctant to claim it is actual molecules, but it is not eye floaters. The specks are too abundant to be eye floaters, not to mention their movements. Each one is like looking at an object really far away, in the sense that you see it, but it is only a one-colored blur that is barely visible, and keeps slipping out of your line of sight.

    Well, yeah. That's my point.
     
  22. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    I think you are completely correct. I have never experienced these white blood cell making moving spots appear. (I had some floaters years ago but not recently.)

    One thing you can do, at least with floaters, to convence yourself the cause is inside your eye, not any external objecting being seen, is to simply close only one eye. If it were something external, you would still see it with the still open eye.

    If there are many Scheer spots, their number should drop by half, when one eye is closed, but that may be hard to notice. What I think would work is to have a spinning disk to look thru, which has a couple of opaque sectors covering 50%. Then the Scheer spots should flicker on and off, each eye producing a separated set.

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    One slightly related effect is that an image which does not move on the retina is soon not visible. (As MadAnthony surely knows, but most do not, there is always a very fine "jitter" moving the eyes, even when you stare as steady as you can at some static sceen.* You do not see the shadows of all the blood vessels passing in front of your retina as this shadow does not move, not even slightly but is fixed on the retina.

    Thus if your heart were to stop for say a minute all the brighter spots the white blood cells make on the retina would fall steadily on the same spot of the retina and become invisible. The processing in the brain of this highly cut up retinal image (by retinal blood vessels) "fills in" to make images percieved of objects appear to be continuous.

    * with modern computers and eye tracking, it is possible and interesting to view a simple image that has been made stationary on the retina. (First time this was done years ago, a tiny light, lens and piece of film all on a light weight post was acually glued to the eye. Then the image it projected was static on the retina)

    For example if the image is a squre of four black lines, soon one (or more sides will become invisible (and later return). I.e. it disappears "piece wise" - why this is true I understand but it is too complex to explain in detail. Has to due with way V1 cells parce objects out of a continuous field of stimulation and the importance of Hubel Wessel´s "line detectors" (and how they mutually re-inforce same orientation but surpress those that are near orthogonal)**

    For example at times you experience two parallel lines, then perhaps a square sided U or C etc.

    ** If the stationary image on the retina is a circle, this dynamic interaction between the Hubel & Wessel line detectors does not occur so it disapears as a unit, and then will return as a unit.

    BTW Hubel & Wessel´s line detectors do not really exist, despite earning a Nobel prize. They were mis lead into thinking they do (along with all the scientific community, many of who still think they do, or like me continue to speak of them, for convience). The stimulus that H&W showed the monkey with electrodes in V1 was almost always half black and half white with straight line dividing these areas. They rotated this screen to make the division line take different orientations. Some 180 different orentations make "cell A" max active and 90 degrees more rotation made it fall silent (smooth changes in activity with rotation) Cell B in contrast had a different orentation for the division line for max activity. etc.

    The truth is the cells were responding to "Gabor functions" which are sort of limited range Fourier transforms. The cells, working together with their like oriented neighbors are much more sophisticated processors detecting the wavelength of the Gabor function components as well as their orientation.

    This was shown later by using a stimulus pattern consisting of several paralled contrasting lines. (and screens with different but uniform spaces between the lines). Then it was harder to find cells that responed to it in any orientation.

    The half dark half bright stimulus H&W used, if deconstructed into it Gabor funcion components has all wavelengths present - just like a step function has all Fourier components. Thus no matter what wavelength a cell monitored by H&W was tuned to (as párt of an analytic net), making the Fourier like Gabor transform, it responed.

    SUMMARY: V1 is immediately making a transform of the 2D image (neural activity pattern) into an entirely different informational form - sort of the Fourier transform (gabor actual) space. This has one obvious advantage compared to staying in the 2D image form. The transform is NOT changed by shift of the physical location of the neural activity.

    That makes recognizing what it is a much easier problem. For example in no way do you see the PlayBoy center fold girl. You "see" her image´s mathematical transform into a function space. Note that if you are told all the Fourier componets of an electrical signal, you know its shape, but not when it occured. Likewise what ultimate is processed more (mainly in the temporal lobes) for identification is, for example recognized as a book, regalrless of where the book is. There are no "retintopic images" in the temporal lobes of that book - only the transformed information in terms of transform components in the Gabor function of the book is identified as a book.
     
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  23. RichW9090 Evolutionist Registered Senior Member

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    You can also verify that you are seeing floaters in the vitreous humor by whiping your head to the side halfway and stopping suddenly - you'll see the vitreous "flow" in the direction your head was moving, slow to a stop and then reverse as it rebounds.
     

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