Hymn to Hitler - A Warning

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  1. Texas Bob Registered Senior Member

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    Something in there about those who don't learn from history....if you don't read through the whole thing then don't comment and don't get so hung up on some parts to miss the larger message of warning

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    Hymn to Hitler
    The Election November 2008

    A Warning

    The following is a letter from Lori Kalner, an old German Christian lady who lived through Hitler and Nazism. She warns Christians and Jews that history is about to repeat itself! It's a bit long, but well worth the read. A link to the article is included. She writes:

    In Germany, when Hitler came to power, it was a time of terrible financial depression. Money was worth nothing. In Germany, people lost homes and jobs, just like in the American Depression in the 1930s, which we have read about in Bodie Thoene's Shiloh books. In those days, in my homeland, Adolph Hitler was elected to power by promising "Change."

    He blamed the Zionists around the world for all our problems. He told everyone it was greedy Zionist Bankers who had caused every problem we had. He promised when he was leader, the greedy Zionist bankers would be punished. The Zionists, he promised, would be wiped off the face of the earth.

    So Hitler was elected to power by only 1/3 of the popular vote. A coalition of other political parties in parliament made him supreme leader. Then, when he was leader, he disgraced and expelled everyone in parliament who did not go along with him.

    Yes. Change came to my homeland as the new leader promised it would.

    The teachers in German schools began to teach the children to sing songs in praise of Hitler. This was the beginning of the Hitler Youth movement. It began with praise of the Fuhrer's programs on the lips of innocent children. Hymns in praise of Hitler and his programs were being sung in the schoolrooms and in the play yard. Little girls and boys joined hands and sang these songs as they walked home from school.

    My brother came home and told Papa what was happening at school. The political hymns of children proclaimed Change was coming to our homeland and the Fuhrer was a leader we could trust.

    I will never forget my father's face. Grief and fear. He knew that the best propaganda of the Nazis was song on the lips of little children.

    That evening before he said grace at the dinner table, he placed his hands upon the heads of my brothers and me and prayed the Living Word upon us from Jeremiah 1:4-5,

    "Now the Word of the Lord came to me, saying, Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations."

    Soon the children's songs praising the Fuhrer were heard everywhere on the streets and over the radio. "With our Fuhrer to lead us, we can do it! We can change the world!"

    Soon after that Papa, a pastor, was turned away from visiting elderly parishioners in hospitals. The people he had come to bring comfort of God's Word, were "no longer there."

    Where had they vanished to while under nationalized health care? It became an open secret. The elderly and sick began to disappear from hospitals feet first as "mercy killing" became the policy. Children with disabilities and those who had Down Syndrome were euthanized.

    People whispered, "Maybe it is better for them now. Put them out of misery. They are no longer suffering...And, of course, their death is better for the treasury of our nation. Our taxes no longer must be spent to care for such a burden."

    And so murder was called mercy.

    The government took over private business. Industry and health care were "nationalized." (NA-ZI means National Socialist Party) The businesses of all Jews were seized. (Perhaps you remember our story in Berlin on Krystalnacht in the book Munich Signature)

    The world and God's word were turned upside down. Hitler promised the people economic Change?

    Not change. It was, rather, Lucifer's very ancient Delusion leading to Destruction.

    What began with the propaganda of children singing a catchy tune ended in the deaths of millions of children. The reality of what came upon us is so horrible that you in this present generation cannot imagine it.

    Our suffering is too great to ever tell in a book or show in a black and white newsreel.

    When I spoke to Bodie Thoene about some of these things, she wept and said she could not bear to write them. Perhaps one day she will, but I asked her, "Who could bear to read our suffering?"

    Yet with my last breaths I warn every Christian and Jew now in the name of the Lord, unless your course of the church in America is spiritually changed now, returning to the Lord, there are new horrors yet to come.

    I trembled last night when I heard the voices of American children raised in song, praising the name of Obama, the charismatic fellow who claims he is the American Messiah.

    Yet I have heard what this man Obama says about abortion and the "mercy killing" of tiny babies who are not wanted.

    There are so few of us left to warn you. I have heard that there are 69 million Catholics in America and 70 million Evangelical Christians. Where are your voices? Where is your outrage? Where is passion and your vote?

    Do you vote based on an abortionist's empty promises and economics? Or do you vote according to the Bible?

    Thus says the Lord about every living child still in the womb,

    "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you."

    I have experienced the signs of the politics of Death in my youth. I see them again now. Christians! Unless you stand up now, you will lose your freedom of religion.

    In America, priests and preachers have already lost their freedom to speak openly from their pulpits of moral danger in political candidates. They cannot legally instruct you of which candidate holds fast to the precepts of Scripture! American law forbids this freedom of speech to conservative pastors or they will lose their "tax exempt" status.

    And yet I have heard the words of Obama's pastor damning America! I have heard the words of Obama damning and mocking all of you in small towns because you "Cling to your religion..."

    But I am a woman whose name is unknown. My life is recorded as a work of fiction. I have no fear of reprisal when I speak truth to you from the pages of a book. (Though the Zion Covenant books are mocked and condemned by the Left in America.)

    I am an old woman and will soon go to be with my Lord. I have no fear for myself, but for all of you and for your children, I tremble.

    I tremble at the hymns to a political leaders which your children will sing at school. (Though even now a hymn or a prayer to God and our Lord Jesus is against the law in public school!)

    Your vote must put a stop to what will come upon America if Barack Obama is elected.

    I pray you will personally heed this warning for the sake of your children and your grandchildren. Do not be deceived.

    The Lord in Jeremiah 1:7-8 commands every believer to speak up!

    "Do not say, I am only a youth, for to all whom I send you, you shall go, and whatever I command you, you shall speak. Do not be afraid of them for I am with you, declares the Lord!"

    I am in prayer for you, and for the Church!

    Spoken to you in the authority of Jesus the Christ, the Name Above All Names,
    Lori Kalner

    http://wicatholicmusings.blogspot.com/2008/10/lori-kalner-speaks-out-on-youtube.html
     
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  3. Texas Bob Registered Senior Member

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    Probably....the woman's religious view was not my point however. It is the parallel between that time and what we are seeing now.

    If some can't look past the Christian part of the message and catch the warning that should be a warning irregardless of one's religious leanings then perhaps we don't want true exploration of the facts and the lessons history has to teach us....maybe we want a message that is censored to only those things with which we agree.
     
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  5. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    Dumb. Why even post such superficial analysis? In fact you do not even need to leave "superficial" mode to note the big problem: do you know what made Hitler Hitler? It was two basic things: (i) a desire to expand through military conquest and (ii) a desire to punish (and enslave, imprison and ultimately kill) unpopular ethnic minorities.

    If you think Obama has a desire to do either, then you must be using some weapons grade drugs.

    On the other hand, can superficial commonalities be found between Obama and Hitler? Yes. They can be found between any two humans. Texas Bob, like Hitler, lived through a time of great economic crisis. Texas Bob, like Hitler was deeply concened about politics. Texas Bob, like Hitler, was a carbon based life form. I could go on and on, and that's without knowing anything specifically about you.
     
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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    She sounds like an ignorant old fool. We just avoided the slide into theocratic fascism by voting for Barack Obama. (meanwhile, the Republicans are overseeing the nationalization of many major banks).
     
  8. Texas Bob Registered Senior Member

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    the Republicans are overseeing the nationalization of many major banks

    Who controls Congress?
     
  9. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Kind of hard to swallow, huh? This is the most obscene thing I have ever read. This screed is all the more ironic considering the Pope did nothing to condemn Hitler at the time. Obama is Hitler? My grandparents fought Hilter and voted for Obama.
     
  10. Texas Bob Registered Senior Member

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    There is a whole lot in common between the new age movement and the "religious views" of the Nazis who were hardly Christian, they were mystics with a strange flavor of mystical new age type beliefs. I read a book many years ago called "Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow: The New Age Movement and Our Coming Age of Barbarism" by Constance Cumbey that goes into great detail about that topic. The relation of the current new agers and what is suggested in the original post above.

    New Age folks are typically lefties (Hillary, et al) and they push their politics of death based on those beliefs.

    I noticed Ophra all teary eyed at Obama's acceptance speech last night speaking of your self proclaimed new age gurus.

    I make no apology for the Pope since I have little to no use for the Catholic church.
     
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  12. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    This shows us two things. First, you know next to nothing about the new age movement. Second, you know very little about hitler and the nazis.
     
  13. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Also, it's pretty arrogant to say you speak for Jesus. I happen to think Obama represents the ideals of Jesus far better than the advocates for the rich.
     
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    Whereas you are almost always at very least a sincere, albeit completely speculative imperialist with respect to your thinking, this is the DUMBEST thing I have ever read that you have posted since being a member here.

    Why not just come out and say "I want one world government where anything goes" and be done with it?

    Why is it when people push left wing thinking that they immediately admit their desire to be pampered to?

    ANYONE that is dumb enough to believe that the Republican or Democrat pro politicians, from a partisan perspective, are somehow responsible for the utter shit shape of things in the USA, is a bigger fool than anyone they could ever hope to tear down with weak kneed words.

    The GREATEST president the United States EVER had was a Republican. But you know what? That had ZERO to do with what made him the greatest.

    I am so sick of sheep minded people, and NO, I am NOT talking about you specifically.
     
  15. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Oh yeah? We narrowly avoided a president Palin, an ignorant theocrat who belittles science and believes in the End Times. I have no idea what you mean by imperialist or one world government. Republicans ruined this country, and now they have ruined their own party. I don't really believe Bush is a true fascist, but the symtoms are there- merging of goernment and corporations, excessive patriotism used to subvert basic civil rights, unlimited executive power, I could go on...

    Republicans aren't what they used to be. I have nothing against it as a political philosophy, but modern Republicans are slime.
     
  16. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    So where shall I stand? Damned caucasians are to blame for everything. It's time we got them. So do I get in the line to the chimney or to the showers?
     
  17. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Like I proposed earlier I feel the technology is now available to thermal depolymerize white people into oil, so in the short run its more like getting into a exotic pressure oven and in the long run getting into my car's fuel tank. Obama will have killed two bird with one stone,how to "kill whity" and our energy crisis, this is until we run out of white people, which I figure will be rather quick considering we use 25 million barrels of oil a day and it would take at least ~5 white people to make a barrel of oil, we are talking 2 days of oil at most.
     
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    I suppose if Obama too, blamed the Zionists for all the problems in America, much like Hitler did with Germany, some doubt would most likely be cast over his motives to get elected president.

    Of course, in this case, the lunatic within emerges when Kalner signs off her letter with this gem:

    "Spoken to you in the authority of Jesus the Christ"

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  19. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    I wonder if anyone is familiar with old Rev. Wright's theology. "God Damn America!" Indeed.
     
  20. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Electric-so do I get in line at your car, then?
     
  21. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Like I said it is rather complex, first you will be place inside of stainless steel vessel, heated to 200C while pressurizer under 60atm of natural gas for 6 hours followed by a brief heating to 500C and then rapid evacuation, the remaining low carbon portions will undergo a repeat of the process under hydrogen and bromine at 500C but at lower pressures (about 2 atms) for a few hours, than its off to distillation, were the lighter C8-C10 portion of you will be collected and then further refined to standard grade gasoline, that will then be transported via trucks or pipelines to a local gas-station and then into my car. Its all spelled out in obama policy plan, chapter 34, section III: "The final solution for whity"
     
  22. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Liberation Theology is the use of the Jew's exodus from Egypt as a metaphor for the liberation of blacks from segregation and racism in the USA. Think of how insipid it would be for blacks when people say God Bless America, the America most of them knew in the past wasn't an example of God's blessings. It was a form of rhetoric, nothing more. You have to see it in context.
     
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