Human society too primitive to interact with, who else?

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by cosmictotem, Apr 21, 2013.

  1. cosmictotem Registered Senior Member

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    Any real life Sheldon Cooper's out there who have accepted the uneducated masses are just too un-evolved for interaction to have any survival benefit? By "uneducated" I don't necessarily mean no college but mainly those unconscious that their behavior and beliefs harken back to a pre-modern, hierarchical and competitive mind set unfit to the current environment.

    How do you avoid them when our culture is overrun by primitive hierarchical dominance behavior patterns?

    What are you doing to escape this primitive world? I am planning to hunker down in the deep forest in a small hut until humanity has evolved or, more likely, I die comfortably alone or with a small group of my fellow enlightened beings.

    How are you coping in this less than a fully egalitarian societal structure?

    Of course, I am assuming that anyone responding understands the superiority of a highly egalitarian sociopolitical contract.

    Any primitives who have wandered onto this message board and whom don't understand this please go away.
     
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  3. ForrestDean Registered Senior Member

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    One thing I have realized is that "advanced technology" is not indicative of an advanced society. It is my opinion that the current "mainstream" global society is no more advanced than the common definition of the neanderthal. Even the wild animals of the forests or even the insects that crawl upon the ground could be considered more advanced than mainstream society. It is not my intention to degrade humanity, nor do I feel there is anything wrong with this, even though some may perceive it to be that way. I am just basing this upon non judgemental observation without bias or preference. It's fascinating to watch society marvel in it's perceived magnificance and view ourself as being at the top of the food chain when the tiniest virus (a conscious living breathing individual) could come along and wipe us all out.

    I don't. I view all life as equal. Every thing, all life, and all events have their purpose. All things have their purpose.

    Nothing. I'm just here for the ride.

    Actually I don't perceive anything as being less or greater than any other thing. I accept everything as it is, and just let go and go with the flow of life, and learn from the experiences I gain while here within this reality. Again, I'm just here for the ride. I'm just playing the game, because in all actuality that's all this really is. It's just a game, it's just a ride.
     
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  5. cosmictotem Registered Senior Member

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    You can't tell me you actually are okay living in a society where you could get physically assaulted for making the wrong decision while driving. Or where many people would rather see someone pummeled in a UFC match than watch or go to a science lecture.

    Why does it seem there is such a vast and irreconcilable difference in the interests of people? Surely, you don't equate the UFC and Science lectures as equal? You can't say people so different, one group that is prone to aggression and another used to reason and cooperation, belong side by side. It sounds like snobbery but that is usually the charge of the group that promotes and engages in aggression as a problem solver and as entertainment. Call it snobbery but people can't function in groups if aggression is consistently selected over intellect.

    There are people and even groups that are walking around that are positively animal-like and then you have extraordinarily civil groups, by comparission, like university professors and scientists. How do you explain that? How do you account for such a difference? That can't be normal. Society has dropped the ball. We are a dysfunctional family.
     
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  7. andy1033 Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    The thing is most people do nothing, and have no real difference to what people where thousands of years ago. Only few people change the world as most at any era, just want there senses overloaded, by sex or drink or drugs.

    I would suspect that before any alien disclosure comes the whole world needs to be under complete mind control program. What ever alien groups that view us, probably saw savages, and uncivilised beast for the most part in all humans.

    Even though mind control does somethimes be used to totally destroy innocent lifes for no reason, without it western society would be far more worse.

    Just imagine all the programmes of mind control and experiments that have happened since ww2 to get mind control to a point where is helps society as a whole, like what we have see in 1st world countries today. Its the only reason they opened up the borders as they have the techs that can control vast numbers of people today. Without this borders would of been still closed. People can be very dangerous, and all we have to do is look at 3rd world countries to see human existence without control.

    Still think at end of ww2 humans where told they would be given a certain amount of time to get the world ready for an invasion. Thats why they made the cold war to weaponize the earth and do all the mind control experiments they needed to bring mankind to an even level, so they could coexist with each other. I think the nwo knows what time it will come or there abouts, and they where told to do all this stuff as humans where probably horrific to outsiders view, how would they ever accept aliens, if they could not live next door to there own species. Thats what the cold war was, the world was told at end of ww2 to fix the world, and get it ready to fix its problems, and live together.

    All the stuff you hear about ww3 is bull, as they are getting the world ready for the above scenario. But remember that means mind control for the whole world, as people are probably too dangerous without it. The horrendous mind control experiments where a necessary evil i am afraid, and without mind control in society humans are frankly bonkers.

    I agree with the fact that until the whole world is under mind control web, there will not be alien disclosure. I agree with the ptb on this, and the techs are nearly there i think.

    Its just a question how this all plays out in there plans.
     
  8. cosmictotem Registered Senior Member

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    Andy, I apologize but this sounds too much like an Alex Jones conspiracy to be believable. Aliens? Mind control? I mean, commercialism does engage in a certain amount of brain-washing, sports fanaticism and beer & alcohol ads promoting misogynist and male chauvinistic conceptions of masculinity, but I don't think governments are trying to make us more docile for alien interaction when governments still talk aggressively toward other governments and still wage war on one another.
     
  9. ForrestDean Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, I agree. Society today by definition could be considered sociopathic and criminally insane. The global society is currently going through an extraodinary learning process of the likes that have never been experienced in all of recorded history. Yes, there are countless perceived atrocities and horrific events occurring daily all over the planet. However there is something to be gained from this. It may not feel that way, but I guarantee you there is. This is all just a painful learning process. The majority of society is incredibly dominated by the ego and extremely bound by an overwhelming set of belief systems. This combination can be extremely volatile and lethal when you consider there are nearly 7 billion people on the planet suffering from this condition. In short, most are just not capable of letting go. We are literally an enslaved race. But as perceivably horrible as this may be, this is actually a beautiful and magnificent opportunity. We have the potential to become something this planet may not have ever seen, but at the same time we have the potential to quite possibly be the biggest failure in the Universe by perspective. In all actuality there is no failure. There is only experience. But either way it's literally our choice. It is ONLY our choice.

    We cannot change the world. This is impossible and should be clearly apparent by now. Also it is futile to wait for the change we desire, because as long as we continue to wait for that change, it will never come. The only thing we can change is ourself, and the world will change as a result. The world is nothing more than a reflection of ourself. When you look into a mirror you cannot reach out with your hand and force your reflection to change from a frown to a smile. You have to first smile. The world is changing and always has, and has changed a great deal just in the last few hundred years, but again it changes and forms as a reflection of ourself.

    The global human society is disconnected from nature, from each other, and indeed all life. We live to serve ourself and the world of course reflects that. Just look at what we have built. Some would say, "Is it not magnificent? Surely we are a great and powerful people." But look at what our creation is doing to the habitat we depend upon for our survival. How much longer can the planet continue to support 7 billion self serving people disconnected from the planet? If the current mindset of society were to remain the same then the next few decades would be quite a ride.

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    If we want to see change then we have to be that change. If we try to force a change into our favor then we just create more undesirable conflicts along side it. If we try to run away from situations we perceive to be unpleasant we end up bumping into other undesirable situations we didn't see coming. If one is stranded in a rapidly flowing river, one cannot simply swim straight to the shore without conflict and struggle. It is much easier to just let go and flow with the river while stearing yourself into the direction of the shore. But letting go doesn't mean just floating there until you inevitably plummet over the water fall. Again you focus on the shore and stear yourself into that direction. In other words, you take the opportunities that are given to you. You don't force them or run away from them. Letting go is not the same as ignoring the world around you or just standing by while watching someone get mugged on the side of the street with complete indifference - far from it. Letting go is freedom in ways that many just cannot comprehend. It is an extremely powerful and liberating endeavor.

    However I do understand the frustration of the world we see around us. Especially when you observe a mob of people and how they react to certain situations. It can perceivably be quite barbaric. You only have to look at videos of "Black Friday" to get an idea, LOL. But awareness of this can be a good thing. This means that we are waking up. We are becoming aware of ourselves and what we are doing. However, we cannot change others just because we perceive what they are doing as unpleasant. That again is impossible. We cannot force a change upon the world around us based upon what we believe to be in our best interest, because everyone currently has their own definition based upon their own beliefs about what is in the world's best interest. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

    The greatest charity one can give to the world is to change one's self.
     
  10. cosmictotem Registered Senior Member

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    Well, alright...I guess. But this is VERY inconvenient!

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    Language is the most important cognitive skill in our species. So I would start with bypassing the people who haven't mastered their own language.

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  12. cosmictotem Registered Senior Member

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    Never let it be said that I couldn't let myself be corrected. That said, I still stand by this thread.
     
  13. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    I 'dominate' horses by an understanding of their psychology. Apparently a woman who has no fear of 1000 lb+ animals is apparently fearsome to the primitive hierarchical dominance behavior pattern and I use this knowledge to my advantage.

    I just happen to own such a retreat in Yukon.

    I work graveyard shift on weekends in the retail food sector which also affords me plenty of opportunity to stock my larder at exceptionally good prices.

    Whenever you assume you make an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'me'.

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  14. cosmictotem Registered Senior Member

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    Okay, I didn't quite understand the first part but the relating of your food sector perks made me laugh. I imagine those prices can't be beat.

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    So you're a horse whisperer? Of the Marty Robert's school? I once used one of his tactics to get a deer out of a fenced yard that couldn't find the open gate. Instead of running toward the deer to chase her out, I ran toward the open gate and, sure enough, she followed me right out the gate. I guess it works with most herd animals, not just horses.

    Glad you have a place to retreat. Yukon sounds isolated, though. Not just population wise but historically. More power to you but I don't think I could do Yukon. I got to have ghosts. The place I live in at least has to have been walked over many times through history. I like to feel the presence of the indigenous population and to imagine the many moccasined feet that could have tread there over hundreds to thousands of years. But I can't say I know the Yukon so I don't know how often that area was crossed. The eastern woods I know for sure is good for ghosts. Lots of history and legends, both First Nation and Colonial.

    Btw, I have no fear of our society. I just think, for the most part, it's dysfunctional.
     

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