Banshee, I think you are sour at me because I prefer Belgian Leff lambic and not a Dutch Henineken lager. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! It´s a matter of taste. We have different tastes, you love catastrophes, Apocalypse, Doom... I don´t. I have been participating in other forums where we discuss scientific, philosophical or political issues (and other lighter, more amusing subjects) and <font color=red><b>we quote each other as a basic rule</b></font>. This is done in the sake of clarity and speed, as a help to other people that has not been reading the latest posts, (if not, they will never know what we are referring to when we post an answer). That way the discussion is fast and smooth. Give it a try and visit <A HREF="http://www2b.abc.net.au/science/k2/stn/"><b>"Self Service Science"</B></A>, an Australian board that is a beauty. I´m sure your views will be welcomed there. Those gay Australians surely need somebody to apply a touch of gloom. But you are the first person in years to have complained for being quoted! If you don´t like to be quoted, then don´t say things that deserve to be quoted. As an example, I´ll quote some people who like to be quoted. In fact, <b>they make their living by being quoted</B>, though their statements shouldn´t be quoted as something to be followed: <UL> <li><font color=blue><i>"The world has cancer, and that cancer is man"</i></font> - - - <b>Nicolás García Uriburu</b>, Argentine artist. <li><font color=blue><i>"In the future, only animals must remain in the planet; human beings are out of place".</i></font> - - - <b>Raúl Montenegro</B>, Argentine ecologist, vicepresident of Greenpeace Argentina. <li><font color=blue><i>"The enemy is not only man, but all human activities"</i></font> - - - <b>Paul Ehrlich</B>, world famous ecofreak. <li><font color=blue><I>"In case I were to be reborn, I wolud like to return under the form of a deadly virus for helping solve the population problem"</I>.</font> - - - <B>Prince Philip</B>, Duke of Edinburgh, owner of the WWF. <li><font color=blue><i>"Hunting and fishing are crimes that will be punished with dead"</I></font> - - - <b>Ronnie Lee</b>, terrorist from the Animal Liberation Front. <li><font color=blue><i>"The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. Population control is the only answer."</I></font> - - - <b>Paul Ehrlich</B> in his book, <i>The Population Bomb </I>(1968), predicting widespread famine that never materialized <li><font color=blue><i>"If the world continues with business-as-usual policies in agriculture and family planning, a food emergency within a matter of years may be inevitable. Soaring grain prices and ensuing food riots could both destabilize national governments and threaten the integrity of the international monetary system."</i></font> - - - <b>Lester Brown</B> owner of <I><b>Worldwatch Institute</B></I>, Quoted in the <i>Washington Post</i>, September 26, 1989 </UL> So don´t worry, I promise I will not quote you again, <b>ever</B>. I respect your whises to remain in anonymity. You will be free to keep whining and moaning your Apocalyptic lethany as long as you wish. Hope you the best of luck in your task of waking up people to the horrors of modern technologies and scientific advances that seem to be destroying Gaia, our sacred Mother Earth. (Geeeeezus!) Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! <b>"It is alarming the speed at which scientific morality is being lost"</b> Haroum Tazieff, french scientist.