how would we increase the size of brains.

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  1. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    firstly we would need to increase the size of our skull. so how do we increase the size of brains non-surgically. perhaps some kind of mutagen to modify the dna.
     
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  3. DrKrettin Registered Senior Member

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    Bicycle pump?
     
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    although it would increase the size, i also should mention we must not only increase size, but keep the same relative neural density as well.
     
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  7. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    The size of our heads is kinda limited by women's birth canal.
    I think we should just go with chip implants - it is coming sooner than you think.

    Resistance is futile
     
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  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Well, first you'd have to change us to be marsupial. Human females can't pass human babies with bigger heads; even now there are problems with the whole process due to head size (head has to be compressed and deformed, women experience incontinence, infertility and a lot of pain due to fetal cranial size.)
     
  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Is it a safe assumption that brain size is merely your means to an end - the end being increased intelligence? That should probably be made explicit to contextualize your question.

    It is unlikely that physical brain size is currently the rate limiting factor in intelligence.

    I think it might be more useful to work on increasing the number of neural connections.
     
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  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Hominid brains seem to have increased in size quite rapidly until heidelbergensis wherein it topped out at 1800cc.
    Then neanderthalensis had a slightly smaller brain, and sapiens an even smaller brain.

    Size alone may not be quite as important as some may assume.

    It has been postulated that neanderthal's larger brain most likely produced problems during birth which may have led to not having enough babies to keep the population growing, or even stable.
     
  11. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    The human mind has been increasing in measurement for centuries via being farmed-out to external resources and the verbal interactions of administrative forums (where majority consensus is reached slash decisions made). In olden times the extension ranged from records and thoughts written on parchment to scribbling quantitative operations on any available surface. Today one's memory and intellective processes have elongated beyond the skull to portable computer or smartphone carried around, linked to a mesh of servers scattered around the world. Cyborg hybridization of biological and technological mediums looms on the horizon of tomorrow.

    Science has outgrown the human mind and its limited capacities:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/04/can-scientific-discovery-be-automated/524136/

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    Daniel Dennett: "I am not making the foolish claim that all our brains are knit together by language into one gigantic mind, thinking its transnational thoughts, but rather that each individual human brain, thanks to its communicative links, is the beneficiary of the cognitive labors of the others in a way that gives it unprecedented powers." --The Role of Language in Intelligence

    Extended Mind Thesis
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_mind_thesis

    The Extended Mind
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Extended_Mind
     
  12. Xmo1 Registered Senior Member

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    Brain: Most complex biological structure known. Dr. Lara Boyd
     
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  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, I have heard it is the most complex object - of any sort - in the universe.
     
  14. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    We need bigger, taller women with bigger wider hips and vaginas.
    AI is stupid and will only make us dumber in the long run. Have you ever had a conversation with an AI before?
    Second, I'm not putting a fucking tracking chip in myself like some slave of the matrix.
     
  15. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Wouldn't work. Then they would have trouble passing those bigger, taller infants.
    Yep. And they have improved 100x in the past 20 years. Imagine what will happen in the next 20.
    You already use a computer like a slave of the matrix - and you probably carry a cellphone like a slave of the matrix.
     
  16. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    collect the top 100 smartest people in history.
    then ask how much bigger their brains were
    then ask if the brain size is a limiting factor of the intellect of the average person on the street.

    then ask your question again.
     
  17. Jake Arave Icthyologist/Ethologist Registered Senior Member

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    Size has little or no bearing on intelligence

    Brain Behav Evol. 1979;16(4):253-70 ; R.E. Passingham
     
  18. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    Einstein was the exception, not the rule.
    He compensated for his small brain size by having an abnormal neural network which was superior to the average configuration.

    While it is true that females have smaller brains, the spacing between their neurons is smaller, so they have EXACTLY the same amount of brains cells as males, that is why males and females are almost intellectually the same as each other.

    Obviously, if you grow a female's brain, and give her more cells, she is going to be smarter than a female who has less cells than her...
    The final outcome of course depending on course of quality of life, quality of training materials, body health, etc.

    For further purposes I am referring to the second post of mine, which is to say Brain Density instead of size, size does not indicate the actual amount of cells in a brain, but naturally one would want to increase brain size in order to not have too highly packed a density.

    Furthermore the article you posted seems to be on this website https://www.karger.com/Article/Purchase/121868 which is asking me for money to read the article.
    What I would suggest is that, after analyzing the article to summarize, in a few short paragraphs, your findings to me in order that me might expedite this whole process.
    In the interest of the Global Consciousness, since you seem to have read the article on your own, it would be far less work for the Global Consciousness for you to simply, take a few minutes and summarize your findings to me, rather than for me to go through the trouble at spending hours of reading the article in it's entirety.
     
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    We are all slaves of the matrix but to what degree? I dont have my cellphone planted inside me. So if I ever want to disobey one of their fascist draconian laws I won't have a chip in me for their brainless robotic dogs to track me down. I have no tether to my cellphone, I can leave it and go off-grid if I want to.

    Second the whole point is to have bigger infants with bigger brains so which is easier, a large woman or small woman for that purpose.
     
  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Wonderwoman !
     
  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe watch a little less TV?

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  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Sure you can. Just like you don't have to post on the web if you don't want to.
    Well, no. Bigger women give birth to bigger female fetuses, so you don't solve that problem.

    We are 'evolving' in that direction anyway. Head sizes are slowly getting bigger; our solution has been Cesarean deliveries.
     
  23. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    have neurologists concluded in some manner to suggest brain size is a determining factor of the difference in human intellectual measurable outcome ?
    e.g
    the emancipation of the female of the species(currently in progress)
    were you to apply a test and see that women are equal to men currently, would it not seem only logical that given more time women will surpass men ?
     

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