How To Run Religion Out Of Science

Discussion in 'Religion' started by newnature, Mar 24, 2016.

  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Correct. That should have been your opening post.
    And it would have been a very short thread.
     
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  3. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Science analyse on what subject matter and life on our solar system , but science does not know how it started and speculate on possibility on how it happen , based on some analysed observations and then extrapolate .
     
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  5. newnature Registered Senior Member

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    Science should stay entirely outside the scope of scientific analysis God. The bible doesn't set out to prove their is a God, so science shouldn't either. Cain is culpable, and for someone to be culpable of something, we have to assume some principle that they have violated. There seems to be in existence from the beginning of creation this universal moral law, and that is: Yahweh-endowed sanctity of human life. The fact that Yahweh has created humans in his own image, but Yahweh-endowed sanctity of human life is an assumption, and it’s the violation of the assumption which makes Cain culpable.

    Science wouldn't want to violate an assumption, so it would look at the facts of the assumption and leave the rest alone.
     
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  7. newnature Registered Senior Member

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    Science wants to see the facts of an assumption, not religion's point of view. Science knows where religion started.
     
  8. newnature Registered Senior Member

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    Science would demand that common sense analysis was used. First of all, science would want to understand why is there a universes. Science is aware of Gen. 3:15, because it forces science to take another look at the forth 'a day'.
     
  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No. Science deals with the what and the how. Never the why. That's for philosophers.
     
  10. newnature Registered Senior Member

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    Philosophy is religion, science is aware of it roots, so it would dismiss philosophy. In order for science to analyze the what and how, it would indeed want to know the why.
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You can say that all you want; it is false.

    You will not find a single self-respecting scientist who thinks science has to do with why things are.
     
  12. newnature Registered Senior Member

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    A self-respecting scientist would indeed what to know the why of an objects history. Now the scientist can study the what and how.
     
  13. newnature Registered Senior Member

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    The bible never sets out to prove there is a God. It assumes that God exists and never questions that assumption. I heard that science proved Genesis is wrong, but can science ignore the assumptions within Genesis?
     
  14. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Why genesis specifically and not the creation mythology of every other religion?
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I think you do not know what a scientist does.
     
  16. newnature Registered Senior Member

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    Genesis 1:1 shouldn’t have happened. The bible assumes that the great usurper exits and never questions that assumption. The earth flooded out proves the great usurper is not an unfounded assumption. The beginning of the universe is in Genesis 1:1. Darkness was upon the earth, it appears the earth is in some kind of black substance. The great usurper and those who helped him out are on the earth, but would they be willing to explore this black substance? This black substance is so dark, the great usurper can’t see his hand in front of his face.
     
  17. newnature Registered Senior Member

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    I agree with you, I don't.
     
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  18. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    newnature:

    What kind of analysis do you have in mind?

    The bible assumes the existence of God throughout.

    Science doesn't really concern itself with God, unless a religious text (like the bible) or person makes scientific claims.

    Thou shalt not kill?

    Yeah, that fits the mythology.

    Right.

    No. Science shows that those assumptions are wrong, like you say.
     
  19. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Reason is to faith as science is to religion. They aren't incompatible, just different.
     
  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Science is a form of philosophy. Also it has shown that the Bible is largely fiction. Sin is likewise just a religious concept, there is nothing that can be tested. There was certainly no worldwide flood coinciding with human habitation of Earth.
     

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