How to identify a fake Christian

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Ivor Bigun, Nov 6, 2017.

  1. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

    Have you ever been attracted to a woman?
    Jesus doesn't approve of such sinful behavior.
    So let's worship Jesus for such a wonderful teaching?
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  3. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

    Do you own a computer?
    Methinks you do!
    Jesus doesn't approve.
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  5. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

    And I'm guessing you are not a Christian ?
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  7. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

    Osama doesn't think he sinned. But the answer is yes, in Christianity, even Bin Laden and Hitler could be saved. Christianity doesn't expect you to be perfect, which is probably why it's so popular.
  8. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

    Up until about age 7
    Managed to get a prize Pilgrims Progress for attendance Sunday school
    Note just for turning up not for knowing stuff
    Used to go evenings some bible group no idea who and don't remember anything about the meetings
    Do remember the last time
    Got dropped off home
    Went into grandma lounge
    Was sprouting on about god being everywhere
    Grandma looked at the food ration book on the table
    Is he on that book
    Well tell him to put more stamps in it
    I was a atheist
    Lot to thank grandma for

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  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

    You can call yourself whatever you like.
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

    Calling yourself a Christian is not like taking an exam, where there is an objectively determined failing grade, based on points.

    Calling yourself a good man, even though you don't give all your money to charities.
    Calling yourself a father, even though you sometimes miss your financial responsibilities.
    Calling yourself a web developer, even though you don't know Photoshop.

    These people are no more fake than the Christian you describe.
    Sure, various people will have opinions, but what of it?

    Why would you hold Christianity to an all-or-nothing ideal that you wouldn't hold for any other label?

    The opening argument is a strawman because it sets up a false, contrived opponent, then finds that (invented) opponent wanting by its own judgment. Of course it does - it was built to fail. You want to know what a Christian does to be Christian - ask an actual Christian.

    The opening argument is a false dichotomy/false dilemma because it presumes a back and white stance: either you pass the test, or you fail - there is no middle ground.

    And the opening argument commits the Nirvana fallacy by throwing out a person/label because it's not perfect.
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2017
  11. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

    This is all a bit foreign to me... cause im Christan an dont avoid answrin questons about my beliefs an nobody has ever questoned the validity of my Christanity.!!!


    Hmmm... that coud be cause i dont know of anybody who is more moral than me.!!!
  12. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

    And if you found god would you do the same?

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