How to identify a fake Christian

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Ivor Bigun, Nov 6, 2017.

  1. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

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    Do any of the following apply to you..

    I am not poor (Luke 6:20)
    I own a shirt, car, house, computer or some other possessions (Matthew 19:21)
    I make future plans, investments, buy clothes, food, drink etc. (Luke 12:22-29)
    I would not assist a mugger or burglar (Luke 6:29-30)
    I sometimes invite friends and relatives to dinner (Luke 14:12-14)
    I sometimes pray in Church or other public place (Matthew 6:5-6)
    I think many of the 613 laws in the Old Testament no longer apply (Matthew 5:17-19)
    I love my wife, children, parents, siblings, life (Luke 14:26)
    I do not love my enemies (Luke 6:27)
    I have been attracted to a woman (Matthew 5:28)
    I think women should be allowed to teach (First Timothy 2:12)
    I think women should be allowed to speak in Church (First Corinthians 14:35)

    Then you are a fake Christian.
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    We've had plenty of assertions here that one must adhere to every single tenet ever imposed by X in order to not be considered a fake X by the poster.

    I'm a liberal, but I do not donate a ridiculous amount of money to the arts. Does that make me a "fake liberal"?

    It's a terrible argument. It suffers from several errors, including straw man, false dichotomy and Nirvana fallacies.
     
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  5. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    I am worried. I thought I was agnostic

    Apart from I sometimes pray in Church or other public place (Matthew 6:5-6) they all apply

    I don't want to be a fake Christian, I want to be a real agnostic

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  7. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    <----------not a fan of the Nicene creed.
     
  8. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

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    No, but then the Arts in this life are not as important as eternity in the next one.

    It is very important to a proper Christian to get everything exactly right to ensure a ticket to bliss.

    One tiny mistake is all it takes to fail the application process.

    Being banned from an Art Gallery is small beer compared to eternal torment by demons with re-hot pokers.
     
  9. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

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    I've just double checked the OP and I can assure you there are no errors.
    All my statements are supported by the verses quoted.
    If you say there is an error, please give at least an example.
    Which quotes are wrong?
     
  10. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

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    Good to know.
     
  11. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

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    So are you hoping God is tolerant and will overlook little indiscretions?
    Judging by the punishments from God as depicted in the Bible, I suspect he isn't and won't.
    In Numbers 15:32-36, a man found gathering sticks on Saturday was stoned to death.
    It was God who commanded this punishment.
    Has God calmed down recently ?
    Or is he the same always ?
     
  12. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus was asked how many time should I forgive my brother ? SEVEN Jesus answered " seven time seventy."
    Does that answer your question
     
  13. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Wait a second there, buddy. Christianity has taken this into consideration. Everyone is a sinner anyway, and if they ask for forgiveness, it will be granted. And Judaism doesn't have a hell.
     
  14. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    But Judaism say someone have to be sacrificed to obtain forgiveness, a lamb , a dove, or other
     
  15. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Striving to be a better person is a good endeavor. If Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, or any other spiritual pursuit drives you in that direction, it's worth the effort and the label.
     
  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Your conclusion. Of course.
     
  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps in your view of things. Which is fine; you can believe whatever you choose.
     
  18. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

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    So I can conclude from your answer that I don't have to comply with the rules in the Bible and still call myself a Christian ?
     
  19. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

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    And still call myself a Christian ?
     
  20. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

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    The guys that flew planes into buildings in the USA also thought they were good, based on their sincerely held beliefs.
     
  21. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

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    I am aware that the Jews don't believe in Hell.
    Moses slept with his fathers.
    Hell is a Christian dogma.

    Suppose Osama Bin Laden asked for forgiveness ?
    Would he bask in the glory of Heaven ?
     
  22. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

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    No.
    I would never forgive my brother if he killed my son.
     
  23. Ivor Bigun Registered Member

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    Killing a lamb doesn't take away your sins.
    If you believe it does, then you have lost your reason and morals.
     

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