How many people die as virgins?

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  1. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Die as virgins.
    On sciforums. Not as many as you'd expect.
    Probably less than half.
     
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  3. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    Well pounded, compacted and beaten?

    Whatever floats your boat....
     
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  5. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    I am sure everyone has heard the term one night stand. This is where a sexual attraction, between two people, leads to sex. But after the sex is done, and the animal inside comes down to earth, they will part ways. Divorce works on the same principle as the one night stand, being an extended version.

    The illusions and drives of passion and sex can attract almost any two people under various conditions. But once the potential is gone, there is often no other connection between these people, that would keep them together.

    There is an old saying among guys, I have never went to bed with an ugly girl, I woke up with a few. The one eyed wonder worm of passion has no depth perception and can not see very well. Once its potential is gone, and our two eyes appear, one realizes there is nothing there.

    In the old days, the idea was to develop connections based on two eyes first, rather than on the one eyed worm. The latter will eventually end with the one night stand effect, when two eyes finally appear. The former already has the two eye appeal, so if and when the sex dies down, you will see your best friend.

    I think many virgins are looking for their two eye appeal, before the one eye appeal of the one night stand. But you may need to be realistic instead of idealistic in terms of two eye appeal. Those who seek their one eye appeal, will has it easier, since the standard of the one eyed worm is lower. They will often go through many one night stands, including those extended one night stands called divorces, until they stumble upon their two eye appeal.
     
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  7. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    No, and I don't like the smell of liver cooked any way you want to cook it.

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    But if I had to bet the farm on which sex had the most virgins, I'd go with male. Because as a man you have to go out and make it happen, but as a woman you only have to say yes.
     
  8. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    A rather interesting way of stating the matter, wellwisher, but it makes the case quite well.

    Hormonal urges alone are not a foundation to build a lasting relationship upon. Those persons who respect themselves and others are more likely to seek another who appeals to the broader range of criteria. Then, after the first blush of intimate novelty is become memory, they will have many mutual paths of interest and growth to pursue.

    For this reason, some of those persons who remain a virgin until their later years may well be persons of discernment.
     
  9. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    If after that, they sexually behave like so many others (ie. have sex when they don't want to have children), then they don't have much discernment.
    :shrug:
     
  10. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    It can also be lack of opportunity. There are entire countries where it is very difficult for an unmarried man to be alone with a woman who is not a member of his immediate family.
     
  11. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    I don't understand why you would suggest that?

    Sexual intimacy has far greater purpose than procreation.

    The ability to give pleasure, comfort and release of physical tension to an intimate other is a bonding faculty, in my observation.

    Postponing the event of intimacy surely does not preclude this event being very passionate once the decision has been arrived at?

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  12. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    And you think that the risk to the woman's health is an acceptable price for that?
     
  13. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Starting off a relationship with strong animal attraction is not always a bad thing, if your willing to let go when it's not right. The problem comes when you know it's not right but are reluctant to give up the sex.

    The person that chooses to remain a virgin until the later years, most likely has problems that will not be conductive to a good long term relationship.

    If your a man and concerned about being a virgin. Find a way to become a non virgin ASAP. There are lots of women that would love the idea of being somebodies first time. Get that out of the way first then worry about love and commitment from a more confident point of view.
     
  14. Cifo Day destroys the night, Registered Senior Member

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    Something makes perpetual virgins act that way, and it may be child sexual abuse (which shouldn't count for the purposes of this question). Along with the opposite-gender child sexual abuse, I knew two women (a woman my age, and an elderly woman) who were very turned off to marriage and sex because their mothers sexually-emotionally abused them from a young age with horror stories about sex.

    It seems easy to imagine women being perpetual virgins, but in the 1980s, I knew a coworker and a friend-of-a-friend, both middle-aged men who were mamma's boys, who wouldn't touch a woman (one guy's mom was widowed, and the other lived at home with his parents), but I know one guy eventually married (I think his mom had died).
     
  15. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    Out of interest, does anyone know how many people Games Workshop employ?
     
  16. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Throughout human history, most people died in childhood. And there are a few who die later as virgins, so I would say the majority of the people that ever existed died virgins. Perhaps 60% or more.
     
  17. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    I'm sorry Signal. I really do not understand this question and so will not even attempt an answer.

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  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    The risk to a woman's (or man's) health from having sex is very minimal, provided they are careful (i.e. they are monogamous, or use protection.) Indeed, pregnancy is probably one of the more dangerous outcomes of monogamous sex for the woman - so in a way I would say the opposite is true; a woman who has sex for procreation is taking a greater risk than a woman who has sex for pleasure (and takes steps to ensure she does not become pregnant.)
     
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  19. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    YES!

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    Something I think has not been researched very much: asexuals. That is; people who just don't want to have sex with others.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality

    Some asexuals are, as I understand it, okay with relieving themselves, but not into sex with a partner, others do not have a drive period.

    I am rather inclined to accept asexuality as not necessarily some dysfunction, myself...but possibly like other atypical sexual orientations, something you have to figure out and come to terms with. I would like to see more research on it.

    My thinking is is that if asexuals understood themselves, they would be clearer about what they want in a partner...rather than attempting to keep a sexual partner happy when the asexual does not want it and eventually will quit having it, they could perhaps find each other for partnership.

    The reason I say this...I hang out on a big social networking site. The forum "I live in a sexless marriage" has over 25,000 members. :bugeye: And so...just observing this...this is a big, nasty incidence of failure to get nasty.

    Yanno, just observing...
     
  20. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    don't forget the subgroup of Asexuals..the Intersexuals..they only have sex on the Internet..

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  21. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    For something to be a disorder it must cause distress. Now if they happy without having sex then thats not a disorder, if however its causing you distress then it can be concidered a disorder. If its causing relationship problems it MAY be a disorder or it may not, depends.
     
  22. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    That's the issue, really...

    Kind of like they marry thinking everything will work out (rather like gay people did in the 50's...try to get the right spouse to "fix" them...) and the couple's sex-life ends up being a zero-sum game...either the asexual spouse is happy and the sexual one's miserable, or the asexual one feels all put-upon and bothered.
    Whereas if asexual was considered a normal sort of thing? Something someone could be happy being? then they would not try to "live a lie."

    Does anyone see what I'm getting at here?

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  23. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    Society at present is still largely focused on the traditional heterosexual couple as being 'normal'. I do not doubt that asexual, bi-sexual, and homo-sexual differentials are all part of nature's normal.

    I find it quite astounding that a sentient species, as humans proclaim themselves to be, are so incredibly hung up on sexual orientation that we would deny basic human rights and opportunities to persons who are born with other preferences.

    The majority of our lives is not spent in the bedroom. It is spent in being a contributing member of a caring society. People should be free to be who they are and form relationships and alliances without feeling the need to pretend to be otherwise, lest they be viewed as 'different' and marginalized in the manner that many have experienced.

    As Pierre Trudeau stated, 'There's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation'.

    Until societal attitudes change, people continue to feel pressured into living the lie, IMO.
     
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