How many children will have to die for you to realize that our society has a problem?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by TruthSeeker, Apr 27, 2002.

  1. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    My beloved world...
    Pay attention to me...
    Read what's going on...

    http://www.time.com/time/daily/special/photo/denvershooting/index.html
    http://www.time.com/time/newsfiles/schoolviolence/
    http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/04/26/germany.shootingwitness/index.html
    http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/04/20/columbine.anniversary.ap/index.html

    A "little" list...
    http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/04/26/deadly.school.violence/

    Bullying...
    http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/03/08/violence.survey/index.html

    Can you wake up now!

    How many children will have to die for you to realize that our society has a problem!?!?!?!?!?!?!? :bugeye:

    Good Lord... while I'm anxious to give Love to people and passing a message of Love and compassion, look what's going on...!!!!!

    It's starting to irritate me...

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    Love,
    Nelson
     
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  3. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    Um. Nelson......

    You do realize that people have known there's a problem for years and years. Right?
     
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  5. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Yes...

    What I'm saying here is...

    Why the hell "we" don't fix it!?!?!?!?!?:bugeye:

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    :bugeye:

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    And the only way to fix it is by finishing with the root of the problem...

    Love,
    Nelson
     
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  7. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    My beloved world...
    Pay attention to me...


    If that isn't the height of arrogance...

    I have two hands, why aren't I running the world?

    Can you wake up now!

    I thought you prefered the dreamworld. Are you now changing your tune?

    How many children will have to die for you to realize that our society has a problem!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    And you've drawn this conclusion how?

    Good Lord... while I'm anxious to give Love to people and passing a message of Love and compassion, look what's going on...!!!!!

    Amazing. You've not included yourself in society. I suppose you could have stopped this had you been given the chance?

    It's starting to irritate me...

    IRRITATE YOU ??? Tell that to the families of the victims you heartless bastard. I wish you could have said that to my face so I could punch in yours.

    You disgust me !
     
  8. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Rather than condem the world around you, which incidently created you, propose workable solutions.
     
  9. Cactus Jack Death Knight of Northrend Registered Senior Member

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    I don't think the "problem" has escalated as much as people think over the past years. I think with modern media sources being able to broadcast things nationally, minutes after it happens, that we get more exposure to it.

    And why shouldn't our children see these horrible things? It's real, its the "truth", its what should be presented to them, its what we've been "seeking" (sorry, shamless pun).

    If you care, sitting on your buts won't help. One way is disscusion, like this. But only talk till your game plan is clear, don't let it dissuade you from action (ever seen Monty Python's the life of Brian? Anyway). Protest the "power", don't go quietly into the night, at least that's my philosophy. But I like social studies too much I think anyway.
     
  10. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Xev,

    Science only served mainly to create confusion, violence and disorder in the world, so far...


    (Q),

    The height of arrogance is to think that Science can answer all questions...

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    [SARCASTICALLY]It is for YOU to wake up from your beautiful world where Science make us hold our hands and sing together:
    Kunbayaaaaaa...
    Kunbayaaaaaaaaa...
    Kunbayaaaaaa...
    Kunbayaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

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    [/SARCSTICALLY]

    Now you show the height of your ignorance... :bugeye:

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    I'm actually one of the few people that I know that believe in Love...

    What irritates me is your complete ignorance for what's going on in the world...

    You don't disgust me...


    wet1,

    It's what I've been trying to do...
    But I see that we have a looooooong way ahead to work it out...

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    Cactus,

    It's not the Truth, it's only our Reality...
    Our Reality we create... our Truth not...

    Love,
    Nelson
     
  11. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    If you critically look at our history you'd see tht different religions are the ones to make humankind suffer. You have studied history, haven't you TS?
    not all, but pretty much ... in time
    Kunbayaaaaaa...Kunbayaaaaaaaaa...
    Kunbayaaaaaa...
    Kunbayaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

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    and what it gives to you-> it only brainwashes your brain
    you are completely ignorant to the real world, you live in your utopic unconditional love reality and don't see what is real and apply's to the human nature and what not
    again playing with word definitions, TS???? WEBSTER-> REALITY-> (2) : the totality of real things and events
    TRUTH->3 a : the property (as of a statement) of being in accord with fact or reality ..........

    ........
     
  12. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    TS,

    I have to say it, if you have trouble breaking out of that cult, ring up your local federal office and ask for help. (They might try taping some wires to you first before they help, but thats their job)

    Seriously, You could stand there outputting how much you LOVE the world, but the love has less mass than light. As well the shear fact how do you define LOVE? isn't your over zealoused use of the word, undermining it's true definitive meaning?

    If you want to save the planet from itself, then your going to have to get a better campaign trail than "LOVE". (It was tried in the 60's and failed)

    If you want to help people, then travel to a country and work helping rebuild where destruction has reigned terror. (Just don't preach.) Or better still go help out some people on an Indian reservation, you might even get some name for yourself

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  13. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Avatar,

    I saw the exact opposite...

    No... it gives Trust in myself... it gives me peace in mind and Heart.... and a bunch of other things...

    "Human nature" is to be sleeping in this nightmare where almost everyone is completly ignorant about Love...


    About Reality and Truth...
    We create our Reality by our actions. For example, if you jump a bridge your reality is "dead".
    But Truth never changes. For example, your computer will always look the same...


    Stryderunknown,

    Everyone knows why it failed...

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    Good idea the indian one...

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    I would like to quote Brian Adams...

    "There is little sense in attempting to change external conditions, you must first change inner beliefs, then outer conditions will change accordingly."

    That's my true Philosophy. By changing people's view on Love, by making them believe in the power of Love, I change the world. But it's not an easy thing to do...

    If I reconstruct something or do something like that I won't be able to do very much. Its when I show people that they can change the world by believing in Love that I truly change the world (at least I try...).

    Love,
    Nelson
     
  14. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    are you ill, what books have you been reading.....have read BIBLE maybe or a book about crusades???
    an illusion of truth maybe
    nobody is, but you underestimate it
    truth always changes-> I can paint my pc blue or I can come with a hammer and slightly change its form

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    you are making it the easy way for you......the way tht is actually impossible
     
  15. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    TS,

    Personal question: Were you ever bullied at school? And if so did it caues you any psychological trauma like making you not want to go, or getting you to ask to be taught at home or anything?

    You don't have to answer but it would explain alot.
     
  16. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    I can sort of understand where TS is coming from, if not the way he says it. I look at the world around me and think "What the hell are you morons doing?" every single day.
     
  17. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Xev,

    No... I'll do better. I'll tell you how many people were killed in wars by weapons made by science...

    15 bloodiest wars:
    http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/war-list.htm

    30 worst attrocities:
    http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/atrox.htm

    Mass murderes:
    http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/tyrants.htm

    Have you seen any other war besides scientific ones so far...?

    What was exactly Cold War...?

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    Second World War Statistics:
    http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/ww2stats.htm

    Weapons and Machines of the First World War:
    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWweapons.htm

    Weapons of the Second World War:
    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWweapons.htm

    Some more...
    http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/other/stats/warcost.htm
    http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstats.htm
    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWdeaths.htm

    To finish...
    http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/war-1925.htm
    http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/war-1950.htm
    http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/war-1975.htm
    http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/war-2000.htm

    Conclusion:
    Science made weapons of mass destruction... what was I saying...?
    We still have them and people all over the world is controlled by fear, because of them...

    *sights...

    Love,
    Nelson
     
  18. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Adam,

    Thanks for being much more aware then other Adam...
    You give me courage

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    Love,
    Nelson
     
  19. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    Xev,

    Are you really really sure Nelson doesn't have an intelligence problem? You must have a little bit of doubt just based on this thread. Surely naivete has a limit.
     
  20. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Stryderunknown,

    The answer is no... but what exactly are you looking for?
    If you want to know... yes... I have traumas... many actually...

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    Love,
    Nelson
     
  21. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Cris,

    Your post don't even deserve a reply...

    Actually... why the heck I'm replying that...

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    Good Luck,
    Nelson
     
  22. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    That don't answer my question, now does it?

    Technology gives us the tools. You thiests use them to kill each other. Not the fault of scientists!

    You can use knowledge of nuclear physics to build a A bomb or to power a hospital. You thiests seem to like A bombs better. (Read: India and Pakistan)

    I tell you what Nelson, why don't you go live for ONE DAY without the things science gives you!

    Go ahead. I dare you.
     
  23. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Okay, TS that's fine. I was just wondering because it would of explained something about the content of your Character.

    As for Science and WAR, let me explain it simply. WARS start without Science, but science can be misused to try and end the wars quickly.

    For instance if it wasn't for science I'm sure there would have been far more casualties in the more recent conflicts around the world, and in the future their will be newer technologies that will make it seem more and more futile to actually use weapons of old.

    For instance I'm sure you've heard of or seen the Matrix and how NEO stops bullets, well there is a question on how useful technology like that would be. I can't go into full details, but image a war is fought where all bullets fired miss people and just drop out of the sky, or bury themselves in the dirt.

    (If you read this Kmguru, you'll understand, if not, I could tell you if you ask)

    I know that the board users might have applied pressures upon you, but thats because you've dubbed so many problems on science when you've actually avoided who your really upset at. Namely (Q) .

    Your mentioning of Science as the problem I think is only related to you being upset at (Q) for his statements, and your retaliation is aimed at him. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     

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