If you were to give me a few days to locate it I could post a copy of my ration card. Rationing continued in the UK into the early fifties, six or seven years after the war ended. Starving may be mild hyperbole (Can you get mild hyperbole? Wouldn't that just be exageration?), but the food situation in the UK was critical. Underfed, undernourished, ona restricted calorie intake, all might be a better terms than starving, but the sense is there.
the american navy DID suck...even our monitoring of our own water sucked. the morning of the pearl harbor attack, the japanese made themselves known to american surveilance not once, not twice, but thrice...and still no action taken because they couldnt verify what it was they had seen. can you imagine what would happen NOW, if such a thing happened? oh god, there would be 24 hour news stations talking about "CRISIS IN THE GULF OF MEXICO", with some patriotic music playing in the background. in other words, it took quite a bit of time for the U.S. navy to reach fighting form.
Are you referring exclusively to the radar hits? If so, this hardly counts as radar was then in its infancy, essentially unknown and unreliable. [Should they have used psychics? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! ]
no, im referring to visuals the japanese subs had resort to, to know where they were once they were in the bay. some of the subs even used their periscopes.
The Devil Inside, History says otherwise, CDNN :: Hawaii Researchers Find Japanese Submarine at Pearl Harbor Hawaii researchers find WWII Japanese midget submarine at Pearl Harbor ... casualties when the USS Ward sank the approaching Japanese sub at 6:45 am on Dec. ... http://www.cdnn.info/industry/i020829/i020829.html
No, that would be putting all your eggs in an armour plated steel basket and then surrounding them with big fucking guns. Slightly different.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor On the morning of the attack, the Army's Opana Point radar station detected the Japanese force, but the warning was confused, at the only partially active Intelligence Center to which the report was sent, with the expected arrival of U.S. B-17 bombers and discounted. Some commercial shipping may have reported "unusual" radio traffic, in the preceding days. Several U.S. aircraft were shot down as the air attack approached land; one, at least, radioed a somewhat incoherent warning. Other warnings were still being processed, or awaiting confirmation, when the shooting began. <---one of these "warnings" was visual sighting of japanese periscopes. i promise you, buffalo. this is disregarding the foreknowledge fdr already had of the attack, and his desire to insert american forces into the conflicts already being waged.
The Devil Inside Your proof? Not unusual for a situation were you aren't at war, and don't know that you are soon to be under attack, I would be interested in how well you would do in a situation like this with no foreknowledge of the events.
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=408 http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2003/tle250-20031207-04.html http://www.devvy.com/pdf/fdr_top_secret.pdf http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-23951 (<--conjecture, but thought provoking) http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=7110 and: http://www.fff.org/freedom/1095g.asp most notably... there ya go.
So all you proved is that we positively knew on Dec. 7, 05:00 Hawaii time that the Japanese would declare War, we didn't know the war was already in progress on the Japanese side, and it still would have taken several hours to get this information to Hawaii, and the attack took place at 07:55 hr, great case genius, you yell that we didn't wait long enough when we took Saddam out and then you yell that we didn't act quick enough in Hawaii in WWII, you truly are a genius-not
actually, my links PROVE what i said. see?: and no, it wouldnt take several hours...telephones existed in the 1940's, guy. in fact, they were commonly used by people of all walks of life. i dont yell anything about how long we should have waited to take saddam out, because i dont believe our country's military should be used to serve special interests. but, i suppose i win...you DID resort to insults. then again, i shouldnt be expecting you to know how to read...being a republican apologist and all.....i know, i know...the tv tells you what to think. its ok, little guy....georgie pordgie puddin' pie will satiate your bloodlust, im sure.
Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! drop us in the wilderness and give us each a checkpoint to reach before eachother. that is the only way to find out, now isnt it? oh, and "oppinion" only has 1 "p". o-p-i-n-i-o-n.
There was no phone link that went directly to Hawaii, and yes we knew something was up but we had not completely broken Japanese code yet. I love your site proof this one is a white supremacist group Racist Skinhead Project: White Supremacists and Racist Skinheads The Creativity Movement, a white supremacist group formerly known as World Church ... or be completely supplanted by National Vanguard or a group like it. ... http://www.adl.org/racist_skinheads/wsgwssm.asp More of the same THE LIBERTARIAN ENTERPRISE And you lable this conjecture? http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-23951 (<--conjecture, but thought provoking) By the end of November, Roosevelt knew that an attack was imminent (the United States had broken the Japanese code), but he was uncertain where it would take place. To his great surprise, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941,
