How exactly does "theism" exist?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by wynn, Jun 17, 2012.

  1. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    It is you who has refused to further explore what I suggested. You just wrote it off with a presumption that all such advise on building self-confidence is as useless as that which you do not appear to have made any honest effort at.

    There is no ad hominem when you repeatedly demonstrate such a lack of effort on your part. Aside from posting here with excuses why any answers offered are no good, what effort have you put into determining what you believe for yourself?
     
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  3. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    IOW, you want me to believe that you know and I don't know.
    You want me to trust you that you know when there is an end to philosophy and personal outlook must take over. You want me to consider you a valid judge over myself and everything. You want me to take on faith that your knowledge of me and of philosophy is better than my own.

    Where did I hear that already ... that's right, from fundamentalist religionists.
     
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  5. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Many of us here have told you that you have to work it out for yourself. You don't appear to like that answer.
     
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  7. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    Seriously? I have made no such claim at all. For each person it is different when the external sources cease to provide sufficient insight. You just seem to have hit a dead end that would suggest you are struggling to come to terms with finding external sources insufficient.

    If the external no longer answers your questions to your satisfaction, then maybe you should look inward.


    Or at least quit being so touchy about people offering you simple and valid advice when you have asked for it. But I am sure you cannot see how that is only a defense mechanism to support your continued lack of effort.

    You only really have two choices. Try or give up.
     
  8. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    To answer the thread. Because I exist to believe in God.

    Do you pose its odd I feel that way?
     
  9. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    You can feel anyway you want, even if what you feel cannot be shown.

    But do you do preach it as truth (without proof), such as "God is…"? I am not sayin here that you do go beyond "believe".

    But, if so, you might want to say "seems" or "feels" instead of outright stating something as true which hasn't been shown to be.
     
  10. dumb dude Banned Banned

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    I just had unadulterated fun reading all these posts. You guys need a break.

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  11. Epictetus here & now Registered Senior Member

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    You've nailed id DD. This thread is absurd from the word 'go'. I can barely understand the initial question.

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  12. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Thank heavens for psychological defence mechanisms!
     
  13. aaqucnaona This sentence is a lie Valued Senior Member

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    OH thank you wynn for a first hand demonstration!
     
  14. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Likewise.
     
  15. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    So Wynn borrowed my comment to turn on others, while of course avoiding any introspection of her own, and now has devolved to "nuh-uh, you are".

    That is called denial, which is what provokes the need for such a mechanism.
     
  16. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Riiight.

    And "denial" is defined as 'refusal to submit to the self-appointed authority of another person.'

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  17. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    No, denial is the inability to even contemplate answers to your questions that many people have found to be valid by experience.
     
  18. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Still an argumentum ad populum (and ad baculum).
     
  19. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    That is not an argument, it is a definition. Denial is the inability to contemplate a thing.

    Where is the coercion? And how does that or a popular opinion effect your denial? Cognitive dissonance?

    You seem to only be using an argument from fallacy to bolster your denial.
     
  20. aaqucnaona This sentence is a lie Valued Senior Member

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    Ah, your greater age and larger experience have, for the lack of a better word, pwned me. Yet, I did make a valid point [so did you, however since this is about you, my point is of greater significance, especially in the context of the recent posts on this thread].
     
  21. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Without asking me what I do, what I have thought about or not, you assume and take for granted that I have not contemplated other people's ideas of self-confidence. And then, you severely criticize me for it and ascribe to me many negative personal traits.
    On top of that, you nevertheless expect me to openly discuss myself with you, here in open forums. And when I refuse, you see this as further proof of my laziness and denial.



    Oscar Wilde once noted that altruistic people lose all sense of humanity. Unfortunately, this is all too often true.
     
  22. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    No, several of you made it about me.

    I've never asked for help, I only presented a problem. But some people think that presenting a problem means that others get to own that person, that that person is thus at the mercy of others and to fully subject themselves to them.

    Talk about killing the messenger.
     
  23. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, well, don't forget these were carefully crafted stories intended to teach and make the teacher look good.
     

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