How does buddhism explain creation?

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by lixluke, Sep 15, 2009.

  1. kurros Registered Senior Member

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    I definitely appreciate that Buddhism doesn't try to answer these kinds of questions. It in fact seems ridiculous to me that other religions do offer answers to these questions. I can never understand why, even if there is a God of some kind, people believe that creation as detailed in any ancient writings could possibly have anything to do with reality. There is no way the people who wrote those texts could have had anything like an accurate understanding of what creation involved, even if they were guided by God in their writing. More to the point, nobody they tried to teach the story to would have been able to appreciate it in the slightest, since presumably God didn't individually dive into everybody's minds and enlighten them as to the details of it, since he wouldn't have needed to bother with prophets in that case. So no matter how you look at it the stories of creation cannot resemble reality, from any culture or religion.
     
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  3. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    Nope. It is strickly a matter of personal taste and not directly tied to the practice.

    In fact just believing in things is generally seen as a mental crutch to be avoided or discarded when you can by finding out for yourself.

    Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon the consideration, 'The monk is our teacher.' Kalamas, when you yourselves know: 'These things are good; these things are not blamable; these things are praised by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness,' enter on and abide in them.
    Anguttara Nikaya, Tika Nipata, Mahavagga, Sutta No. 65:10
    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/soma/wheel008.html
     
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  5. Thoreau Valued Senior Member

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    Please, for all those who have questions and are looking for answers from a Buddhist point of view, I highly recommend reading The Universe in a Single Atom as well as The Art of Happiness, both written by HH the Dalai Lama. They are relatively short books which are filled with information that answers the various questions that have arisen in this discussion.
     
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  7. Thoreau Valued Senior Member

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    Furthermore, most of Buddhism has a very open approach to the history of the world, mankind and life in general. They do not have blind faith and they base much of their own opinions of such on scientific discoveries. The Dalai Lama once said in a documentary interview, "If it is discovered and proven that the world may be 3000 years old, or may it be discovered that it is infinite in age, as long as it is proven then I can believe. Until that day comes when the current belief on history is changed, I just work on my gismo's". (He has a fascination with anything small and mechanical such as watches, clocks etc).
     
  8. Pantajali Registered Member

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    time to wake up!

    If you die in this lifetime without reading the WY Evans Wentz books, I think it would be a shame. Buddhism is about realization of the innate Budda within all of us, and then the realization that there is no outside of each other,..we're all the same Mind; subjecting infinite ideas in the most appropriate manner to Our Self. There is possible salvation in one lifetime if you follow Milarepa, it is proved, and to read his name here, now, guarantees salvation upon death. The Book of the Dead will afford you the means to banish delusion upon said death, and guide one to close the doors to lower births; where pain and suffering are inevitable.
    If you cannot understand the writings, or dislike the material subject; I would recommend isolated, deep meditation. There are many ways to achieve this, and some are comprised of Yogic breathing exercises and postures which help alleviate your desires to abstractly think random, nonsensical yet absolutely Divine thoughts, in order to calm oneself enough to attain Self realization, quite possibly in one lifetime, such had Jetsun Milarepa, and Jesus. These being absolute states of Self realization, permanently ingrained within each of our hearts, shared in Our Mind, and experienced individually in ignorance; usually, of our true nature; not to be confused with mara.
    You will die from doing this, and be reborn into a true state if done properly, and read esoterically; but also exoterically for atOnement - dependent upon where One is inclined to position One's ignorance.
    Death is only a brief, passing moment, such is a birth. A ripple on the lake of the Mind. Smile and rejoice!!

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  9. Finder123 Registered Member

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    What are those 14 questions, so that we can stay away from asking for "trouble". I mean, a question without answers are trouble right?
     
  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    What about the satisfaction in the discovery of prior unknown qualities of origins of the universe and life?
    I can certainly agree with that sage advise, but IMO the two are inextricably entwined.

    There is a difference in the problems of creation of spacetime and creation of life.

    The creation of spacetime begs the question of what came before and is as yet unknown.

    However creation of life is a probabilistic biochemical process and interactions of existing and evolving biochemicals and is well understood but not yet duplicated, mainly due to trying to duplicate probabilistic planetary processes at immense scales of space and time in a laboratory with extremely small scales of space and time.

    Below is excellent presentation on the origins of life on earth. (Start viewing @ 25:15 to avoid lengthy introduction).
     
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  11. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    "Since there's never been a single thing,
    where then is defiling dust to cling?"
     
  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Depends on the molecular chiralty......

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  13. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Achieving ambidexterity has been a lifelong ambition
    I'm beginning to think that it ain't gonna happen, and that it was a silly quest.
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    IMO, it would take a considerable amount of time and dedicated training the brain for ambidextrous hand-eye (foot) coordination, such as displayed in sports like basketball or soccer.

    But there was a time in Europe where naturally left handed persons were forced to use right handed tools. You can imagine the inherent problems . My father was naturally left handed and did everything except writing with his left hand.
     
  15. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    My mom and one son were/are lefties. She wanted to force right handedness on him-----having a degree in psychology---I stopped that.
    He has to do some stuff right handed--------his guitar is strung normally---but he really ain't ambidextrous neither.
     

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