If the troll in question actually acknowledged and read and understood properly the bolded and red highlighted parts of the "Hole Argument" wiki article quoted in post #267, he would not have to continue posting 'links and excerpts from purely philosophical views of 'space-time' constructs. Instead, post #267 states clearly that 'space-time' descriptions/coordinates by themselves are meaninglss unless the events/process occurrences are included, as Maxila et al, including Einstein and Sean Carroll and Penrose, have pointed out as the empirically supportable view of 'time' as an derived abstraction from motion/change in energy-space processing occurrences. But will this deter the troll in question from further cluttering up the threads with his 'links' to purely philosophical views about 'time'? Probably not. The troll has not shown any glimmer of understanding of what mainstream and Maxila et al have presented him with, if only he could actually read and understand it all. Which he apparently cannot. So be prepared, forum, to suffer more of that troll's interminable clueless meaningless science empty repetitive postings. Cest la vie when such trolls are apparently 'given the nod' to clutter and bait and 'bury' threads/discussions at will.