I don't know. Erm, well they had round things and made a name for them. Sounds like you have a lot of research to do. Maybe it's just easier if you say "god did it" and move on. No. Could be. I could perhaps, if supplied the appropriate quantity and quality of weed, describe something pretty complex in pretty sweet detail. Wow especially if I didn't spend all my time dicking around online with zero attention span. Hmm. Uh, I'm not skeptical of god. Not at all. I'm skeptical of people who say they know things about "him", or could possibly fathom anything remotely... well, whatever. I'm not at all skeptical. God cancels itself out via 'way beyondness', except in the eyes of those who well... don't understand what the fuck they're really saying. As I've stated: "GOD" is the anthropomorphization of nature, period. It is ego projecting itself onto the majestic, and reporting back whatever it must as a byproduct of that ego. It's a function, embodied by the emotionally needy as "the creator who created me in HIS image". *puke* Narcissists. Well I'm not sure, but "people made that shit up to feel better about stuff" sits pretty easy with me. I'm satisfied with that. Well personally, I see "god" as an evolutionary conceptual tool that's largely responsible for the success of the species, so yeah once that ball got rolling its utility was way to valuable to release. Biggest meme EVER (probably.... nevermind). Big ups.