How Bad Can Microsoft Be

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  1. kmguru Staff Member

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    Actually there are plenty of Unix flavors. Sun, HP/UX, IBM etc. All Linux will do is replace IBM UNIX and may be HP/UX. SCO UNIX already adapted Linux because they could not compete with the bigger guys.

    Will Linux be a desktop client? We already have one good one called Mac OS. I predict the way Mac is going - finally they will give Microsoft a run for money in the OS market. But other software for Mac? It will be still be Microsoft.
     
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  3. ndrs The Anti-Cthulhu Registered Senior Member

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    I used to love DOS... It was TR-DOS at first on ZX spectrum

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    , then MS-DOS, then I loved Windows... Then I found freeBSD (1996) - something new - a new challenge. Later I changed to Linux due to it being more popular... I have been mainly using Linux since then. Now I use Linux for everything, except for things like games which have to run on Windows.
    One interesting thing was I was excited about installing Windows 95, then I got bored very quickly... Too easy. The reason I use Linux is:
    1. Programming is easy, stable and comfortable.
    2. I can monitor every part of the operating system and examine it when something goes wrong, etc.
    3. The window manager is more versatile and powerful (I use Windowmaker).
    4. I can do automization of various tasks easily, most of these things would require C++ programming on Windows... which is a real pain... Did anyone had an experience with DIB and DDB on Windows.. I had one, when I was already late for a deadline.

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    I would never say Linux is for everyone, but then it is a real pain for people using Linux (or anything else really), when Microshoft keeps inventing new standarts which aren't compatible with their OWN previous standarts and most people use it. But then I love all the things in life that are complicated.
    I would suggest Linux at home for people who:
    1. Want to learn/do programming
    2. Want to learn about computers in general, hardware, networks etc..
    3. Want everything their way.

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    Also, I am sure a lot of younger peoples interest in computers is being hampered by the simplicity of Windows, but Linux is here to save the day.

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  5. ndrs The Anti-Cthulhu Registered Senior Member

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    kmguru: don't forget the new Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, which is quite similar to Linux (except for license).
     
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  7. kmguru Staff Member

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    ndrs: yes I know. I have already posted several times.

    Remember Next computer that Jobs did many years ago? I think that was based on BSD. Anyway it was a great product then. But their marketing department sucked. They did not support me when I was trying to develop an Expert system for Industrial applications. Rest is history. Microsoft took over.

    Moral of the story is never hire idiots for your marketing department.
     
  8. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    IE6 Patches

    Microsoft has done something again which defeats all understanding...

    Firstly in the old Browsers without the particular patch, their was a potential exploit where someone could manipulate your "PROXY" settings through the use of a trojan.
    You wouldn't notice and surf the net, while possibly bouncing through a computer that had been set up to listen to your packets with a packet sniffer. Passwords and bankdetails could be broken through this method.

    So Microsoft made a patch, now you can no longer use an external proxy. Now this is all very well but this now means that computers are getting more and more to the point of blocking privacy. So no more anonymous functioning

    This has it's good points at catching the wrotten few, but the bad points are that people will know who you are throughout the net even easier than before.
     
  9. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    so
    screw IE!
    use Mozilla 1.0 or Opera 6.0
     
  10. L00DPreh Registered Member

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    Simple

    Let me put it simple. MS is trying to make everything they invent the standard. You know this whole .NET MS supposedly came up with. Where all your programs and files will be stored somewhere and all you have to do is log into a computer and voila, there's your stuff. Sun came up with this idea. It goes like this. Sun envisions a day where there won't be files stored locally. Instead, Sun wants to see the day you can access your files and have them ready at any instant, sort of like a phone. It's always ready to connect you, all you have to do is pick it up and there it is. Anywho, MS is trying to take other companies ideas and toot it as its own. I still remember hearing how Bill Gates didn't know what an email was until his mother told him about it.
     
  11. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    I'd hate tht my critical data is stored n some doubtful server, especially if it is a MS server. Think of it- all your data is accessable to them. I'd better make my own server and put it on-line somewhere.
     
  12. kmguru Staff Member

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    Actually it is not the SUN but EMC that has the idea when implemented will be instant. The data does not reside in a server but continuously loops on a high bandwidth net globally 24X7. So you get it when you want and where you want.
     
  13. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Another "Bug/Exploit" was brought forward to me, I'm sure your all aware it's called "Homepage Hijacking".

    A Friend recently asked for help aiding him with a problem, something had caused his right click in explorer to foul up, and all his menu bar buttons to disappear as well as his system kept loading information through the net without his permission.

    Now I'm not sure exactly how his system had been altered, but on investigation of the site (www.tinybar.com)

    At the bottom of the page is "Upgrade your Search Page: Click Here". The anchor loads a .REG file. Changing some keys in your registery.

    Those keys had Hijacked his Explorer.

    I investigated further into the keys and found a mention of:

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
    "sp"=""
    "spp"=""

    This was a key in the use of deleting a Hijack from the computer.
    The SP is supposedly a DLL that can load on boot if the key exists.
    So those keys should be deleted

    More information: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/qa/134432267_ptmrsh06.html
     
  14. stevepetrov Registered Member

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    Re: Adam ... Framework Selections & Functions

    Yeah Framework rules (IMHO). Although it doesn't have the multimedia features of Windows or LINUX it's a great workhorse and it's getting better all the time since Selections & Functions took it over from Borland. See http://www.framework.com for screen shots & other info.
     
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