Homosexuality an Addiction, Says Candidate

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Giambattista, Nov 25, 2009.

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Homosexuality is an addiction. Heterosexuality is not.

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  3. Anything can be an addiction! Define the word!

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  1. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    But when you signup to accept the theory of Darwinism, then according to this theory, homosexuality is a mutation which is bad for the species! So how can something which is not supposed to be natural according to Darwinism, feel natural to you????
     
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  3. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    How is it bad for the species? Are humans endangered because of it?
     
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  5. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    Its not "natural" according to Darwinism that is my point Darwinism is wrong, as all major faith disagree with the theory
     
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  7. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Darwinism isn't the same as Evolution
    Darwin didn't know a whole lot about genetic drift or heredity
     
  8. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    Both are wrong, and evolution was proposed by Charles Darwin he had no authority he was just an underachiever in school who dropped out of school with no qualifications, and he went sailing with some drunkards, and he decided to propose his theory of evolution when he found these amazing new creatures no-one had seen before!
     
  9. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    what does that have to do with homosexuality being bad for a species?
     
  10. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    Its bad for the individual we are selfish according to evolution, the whole point is to reproduce and spread our genes (Dawkins, Richard - The Selfish Gene)
     
  11. takethewarhome midnatt klarhet Registered Senior Member

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    Who "signed up" for anything? You're putting word in my mouth. How presumptuous.
     
  12. takethewarhome midnatt klarhet Registered Senior Member

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    That's why you say that Darwinism is wrong? Because faiths say so? Wow.
     
  13. takethewarhome midnatt klarhet Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, and he had some great ideas. And what exactly are your professional merits that outshine his?
     
  14. superstring01 Moderator

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    According to Darwinism, there is no right and wrong. Only successful and unsuccessful.

    Humans have, as I've pointed out, evolved way beyond nature. We drive cars, mine oil, build towers, fly planes, smash atoms into eachother, dive to the deepest depths of the ocean and fly ships into space. Pointing out a singular unnatural attribute about humans in order to label it as "bad" is solipsism at its best and it misses the larger fact we've evolved beyond the confines of "nature". There is no "what nature wants" or "what nature intends" because nature is not conscious, moral or idealistic. Nature is a catch term for the gestalt called "the universe" including all of it's inherent qualities and various and seemingly infinite reactions. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    Nostalgia, and only nostalgia, makes people obsessed with what was and what should be. We're a few generations from taking control of our genome. Very quickly, gender, race and other contemporary physical attributes will be nothing more than a footnote in what will be a history lesson.

    ~String
     
  15. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    That argument is not a strong one. It's rather like saying "Muhammed was a mere merchant who never went to school and therefore had no theological authority or qualifications, he lived in a cave like crazy person for a while, and then spouted his nonsense theories about "Islam" which much therefore be a false religion.

    That Muhammed lived in a cave was was merchant would not render his theological insights invalid. You attack an argument on its merits, not on the perceived shortcomings of the person who first put the argument forward. The latter is an "ad hominem" and is a classic logical fallacy.
     
  16. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    That is a short-sighted view of evolution. Homosexuality could be beneficial in a variety of contexts. Strong and loving male-male romantic bonds are common in many cultures, and yet the men still have children. The ability to romantically bond with other males could be a source of strength. The only thing hat would render it maladaptive is if the homosexual in question refused to have offspring with a woman...but homosexuals have proven that they are often willing to do that for the benefit of child-rearing. In the modern age, it doesn't even require that they have sex, which I am sure is a boon to the homosexual community.

    The Sacred Band of Thebes, for example, was considered to be an especially fierce fighting force BECAUSE it was made up of homosexual lovers. So long as they were willing to bite the bullet and have children as well, their homosexuality could easily be argued to be a sufficient social advantage that it could lead to enhanced survival success for the offspring they did have.

    In addition some evolutionary biologists believe that traits beneficial to a group can be the product of selection. Under that paradigm, the homosexual trait could be selected for even if the homosexuals were not having children directly, so long as their close relatives did.
     
  17. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    But we all know God spoke to Mohammed throw the archangel this is a very well documented fact it is right there in the Qu'ran and God's word is infallible, so if science does not agree with gods word, then it is simply wrong, scientists are a group of arrogant people in white suits, and work on secretive lab experiments, and then tell you, that you can't understand it and neither do they, I mean like I am to believe that everything came out of a big-explosion and we are just genetic junk, and inanimate matter turned into animate matter randomly, and yet they are more likely to believe in things like black holes which no one has seen and cannot be proven to exist, and they have been wrong with telling us things like that the sun rotates around the earth and that Pluto was planet, and that life was found on Mars, the list is endless, yet all major faith agree that a god exist, there are more people who believe in god then who don't
     
  18. superstring01 Moderator

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    Right.

    And, I guess Ibn Baaz WAS right!!! The Sun does revolve around the Earth!

    ~String
     
  19. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    The sun does revolve around the earth! because the earth is flat and much larger then the sun, this is a fact which is right in there in the Qu'ran:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F5kYWceTsI
     
  20. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    But if the earth is flat, than why pray tell me, can a ship keep sailing straight across the southern globe, and not fall off you idiot.
     
  21. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Actually we have seen black holes you imbassil. We have seen quite a few.

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    Each one of those has a black hole in the middle, including our own galaxy.

    Hell, we are MAKING black holes.
     
  22. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    It does not go fully to the end of the earth what happens is, and bear in mind the earth is bigger then the sun, thus when someone tried to go to the edge of the earth the person ends up making a circul ontop of the flat earth this is due to the earth being very massive and spread out the earth diameter is 1864938 miles, much larger then the sun, the point is no one has been to the edge of the earth
     
  23. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    yes, all major faiths tend to disagree with a great wealth of information that is largely considered scientific fact. whats your point?
     

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