Homeopathy

Discussion in 'Health & Fitness' started by James R, Aug 16, 2009.

  1. kmguru Staff Member

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    No way, why you would take an established word (and meaning) and use it to mean something else? Unless you correctly spelled it as Homeothapy?

    Are you trying to pull a fast one?

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  3. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    I think you might be getting Naturopathy and Homeopathy confused. Naturopathy is what indigenous peoples, Chinese medicine, etc. is all about, homeopathy, that is something all together different.

    I'm not willing to weigh in on homeopathy. I used to be 100% sure it was all quackery. . . however, there are now some new investigations into the nature of water and how it takes on properties of consciousness, which make me wonder that it might not have anything to do with "chemicals" at all, or the substance that was in the water. . . It might have more to do with the actual water in fact. Who knows. :shrug:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturopathy
     
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  5. rcscwc Registered Senior Member

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    Drugs need not be in bulk doses like allopathy to be effective. Even nano concentrations can be effective.

    Finally, the proof of pudding lies in eating it. From age of 17 I suffered periodic paralysis of legs and arms. Allopathy failed to cure it, rather even know what it was. All the specialist told was it is a form of paralysis. Which I anyway knew. But then a homeo doctor gave me a set of four drugs to try. And I was OK in a few days. Earlier the bouts were frequent, but with homeo treatment, frequency went on reducing. It is now 10 years ago that I had a very, very mild attack.
     
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  7. Skeptical Registered Senior Member

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    There are certain words which tell all about those who use them.

    Words that reveal with 100% certainty that their user is a crackpot include :
    allopathy
    wellness
    holistic

    The one thing that all alternative therapies have in common is that they are not tested and demonstrated within scientifically acceptable levels of evidence to be effective. This is true of most naturopathy, and of all homeopathy.

    Naturopathy is a bit of a mish mash. Unlike homeopathy, it is not a single philosophy of treatment, but a grab bag of anything that 'seemed to be a good idea at the time'. A few small bits are OK, such as good diet and exercise. Most is bullsh!t. Coffee enemas - you gotta be crazy to accept one. Detox programs. Not one shred of good scientific evidence, and they have been tested by good science many times. Plus a mass of other crap.

    Herbalism is a favourite of those who pretend to science, but like to be alternative. A few herbs have some limited value, like St. Johns Wort for mild depression. However, the vast bulk of herbs used by herbalists have either not been properly tested, or have failed scientific tests. Some have proved to be quite harmful. Even the 'good' herbs are ridiculously variable. The active ingredients can vary by orders of magnitude from one dose to the next, making any benefit problematic.

    But at the end of the day, homeopathy is the ultimate bullsh!t.

    Personally, I will stick to orthodox medicine. If there is harm, that harm is well researched, and I can know about it. And nothing is offered that does not work, at least some of the time. I have an eye condition, that causes me enormous pain when it strikes. I have tried a wide range of methods of fixing it. The only thing that works is a type of steroid given as eye drops. It is a bloody miracle! Vive la steroid!
     
  8. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    There are always "new investigations" into these ridiculous things, especially when they are struggling for funding and are, at least in the UK, in danger of losing all government funding (and rightly so, imho).

    Research in 2005 showed that liquid water basically loses the memory of persistent correlations in its structure within 50 femtoseconds - that is 50 millionths of a nanosecond... or 50 millionths of a billionth of a second.

    Water is water. It has no persistent memory.

    Homeopathy is hocum. It is a fraud. It should be condemned as such.
    The sooner the governments stop funding this waste of time and effort the better.

    If it was genuine, why do we in the UK not suffer from all the impurities in our drinking water?
    There is probably more active ingredient in the air than there is in any of the remedies.


    The only benefits apparent from the multitude of tests conducted are placebo and the benefit of a doctor actually listening... i.e. homeopaths tend to spend longer with a patient, almost acting as a therapist.

    With regard the effectiveness of what is physically consumed... it's drivel (imho).
     
  9. Lady Historica Banned Banned

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    homeopathy is a word used by good psychologists to say, "Don't smoke so much marijuana, or do too many drugs":m:

    Why? You will screw with your brain chemistry.

    Then the crazy medical people applied it wrongly to all kinds of placebos. I guess drugs aren't the only thing that can screw with your brain chemistry.
     
  10. Hercules Rockefeller Beatings will continue until morale improves. Moderator

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    Homeopathy involves giving people water, not drugs of any dosage.


    Of course. Nearly all modern pharmaceuticals are developed and formulated to work at nanomolar concentrations.


    Well, if by that adage you are trying to suggest that your anecdotal story constitutes scientific evidence supporting homeopathy, then no it doesn’t.
     

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