Holocaust, Jews, Hitler and the Easter Bunny. Not the latter.

Well done!:bravo:

 

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whatever harm done to the jews does not excuse Israel. fixing the crimes against one by transfering the crimes to another is not fixing it

 

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Hitler didn't start it, he simply joined the National Socialists and was successful. They capitalized on existing protestant hatred for Jews. This was propagated in the practice and custom of the passion plays, which depicted Jews as instrumental in the death of Jesus. Jews were involved in the banking industry which like today people tend to distrust. Banking was one the few professions open to Jews in Europe historically, due to Christian customs against charging usury (interest). Jews also looked to communism as a remedy for anti-semitism, the Russian Czar having targeted Jews after a failed assassination attempt in which several of the plotters were Jewish. Jewish owned newspapers were critical of right wing extremists and promoted socialism. So, German anti-semitism did claim to have rational reasons for thinking Jews were the enemy.

 

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you hit on an element that I think needs to be adressed how stereotypes of the jewish people came about through their connections in banking when you think about most of the stereotypes of jews( the greedy jew, the stingy jew, jews generally care more about money than anything else) were due to things that should have been linked to bankers but the heavy overlap caused them to link to the jewish people as well as bankers

 

And if they weren't stereotyped as bankers, then they were stereotyped as communists, and not just in Germany either. The vast bulk of all communists throughout Europe were of Christian descent, but from reading some of the historical documents of the time, it seems a lot of people in the region would file grievances against miscellaneous "communists" for one thing or another, and often their use of "communists" would be synonymous with "Jews", without any reliable evidence to back the direct connection.

 

well jewish people tended to look at it favourablely and probably had a higher percentage of their population be communist but the base argument applies many things were linked to jews because of overlap

 

As with all stereotypes, there is an element of truth there. Why do many black people still like ham hocks and collard greens? It because that was the food white people didn't want and so it was cheap.

 

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/135006 Good discussion there. " Soul Food versus Southern Food"

Basically blacks outside of the South retained a lot of poor but enjoyable Southern ways. Family cooking traditions get passed down and cherished nostalgically. Consensus was that blacks cooked slightly spicier than poor southern whites but otherwise the cuisines were the same.

 

I think you proved my point, it's the same bias you showed when referring to "reliable" sources on Polish history in a previous thread on Jews. The source you pointed me to, Norman Davies, I actually did look at. All he does is basically cobble together anecdotal tales from local peasants, alleging throughout that communists screwed everything up, the communists were mostly Jews, most of the Jews were communists, and they deserved the short end of the stick both before the NAZIs showed up, and afterwards. Enough with the bullcrap generalizations, let's see some statistics on just who was a commie and how many were of what persuasion and who really screwed Poland up. In the USSR, there were several periods where the central bureaucracy considered exterminating the Jews much in the way they almost did to the Chechens.

 

that's right I forgot jews can't do anything wrong

that right there proves you didn't read shit because Davies has never made that argument.

the communists

So that doesn't change the fact that polish jewery tending to look favourablely on communism. belive it or not your not the sole decider of truth the facts are and the fact agree with me. I'm sorry you don't like what a respected historisn has shown but that doesn't change history. and its nice that you bring up your trolling and off topic ranting you did in that thread.

if you want to continue your racist rants in that thread do it in that thread don't ruin another thread with your hatred and Nazi propaganda

 

The good news is that even a criminal like Castro says Israel has a right to exist.

The bad news: Muslims do not.

 

The strange news is that Muslims deny the Holocaust.

The even stranger news is Muslims deny they dumped a Mosque on the Jew's most sacred site, and boldly teach that the Protocols of Zion is their version of truth.

There goes your Gospels - which says one JC visited this temple.

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That's right. Unlike the Indians who destroyed your Mosque dumped on the most sacred site of the Hindus, the Jews left your Mosque standing in Jerusalem when getting back their 3000 year Capital in '67, following a multi-state Arab attack with a declared goal of genocide on a UN re-established state.



An Indian court has decided that indeed a mosque was dumped on the ruins of the Hindu temple, and that this land belongs to India.

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Laugh of the day:

Muslims killing innocent people over a cartoon satire - while making Holocaust competition cartoons.

Know for a surety, the 70 virgins you expect will be 70 transvestites singing punk rock.

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Numbers seem to make everything about this subject...sterile.

I urge all readers to study his guy's life:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

Children selected for his Frankenstein experiments were considered "lucky" by fellow camp victims. That gives you an idea. Mengele got away with it, he died an old man.

This thread makes me want to slay deniers, cruelly, you have no place in the world I'm living in.

 

what do you mean my mosque I am neither palestinian nor muslim. I would take it kindly if you would get your facts in order rather than talk out of your ass.


and quit trying to rewrite history to suit your supremist goals

 

Pointing out incompetence and weakness in the Polish army doesn't constitute NAZI propaganda, and it was a legitimate point I made. You were trying to show that Poland somehow contributed to Palestinian suffering by allowing Jews to serve in its army, and my point is the Polish army was little more than a 3 week distraction from the real war, and had little impact on anyone on any side of the conflict, aside from giving the Germans good target practice.

I called you out on your double-whammy, as you were trying to disparage the contributions of Jews to Polish society while linking it to your personal grudge against Israel. If you're going to say most Jews saw communism favourably and were thus responsible for wrecking your homeland, I want to see stats to prove it, and comparisons to how well they favoured other forms of society.

 

Mengele was a sick puppy. Menglee is the true embodiement of evil.

 

No repeating NAZI propaganda constitutes repeating NAZI propaganda.

None of this is relevant to the topic at hand if you wish to continue posting rascst BS and Nazi propaganda do it in that thread

 

Let's see... in your thread about Jews in the Polish army, you told me the Poles overwhelmingly resisted the NAZI persecution of Jews (entirely false, far more Poles helped the NAZIs than the considerable number who helped protect Jews). In addition to trying to justify the notion that Polish Jews took advantage of their mother country to intentionally create Palestinian suffering, you told me the Jews got mistreated in Poland only because they were "mostly communists" wrecking the country, and you continue to push that stereotype here in this thread. Yeah I'm so sorry for "trolling" your other thread and pushing back against your hateful biases, without it you could have been the only person posting there and then it would have been more like the "honest historical debate" you were "seeking" in the first place.